Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,05:25)Angels are spirit beings.Except when they are men like prophets.You deny this, but it is written in plain English for all to see. Ed J you need to tell us why the translators got it wrong when they applied malak about 188 time for men.Whereas we just believe it is written.EdJ you have shown no proof that these…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,13:05)Hi David,Do you believe English is a furtherance of the revelation of God?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEnglish is a language EdJ.

Good one T.I was going to suggest that someone list out the scriptures.

Sorry it is a conflict because men have been called angels by John.And you say that men cannot be called angels.Yet we have tried to prove to you that angel/messenger/malak can be applied to both.How many more ways do we need to prove this obvious fact before you decide to actually embrace reality?Like I said before, your defense for your precious…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,02:22)Quote (t8 @ June 30 2012,23:13)Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,01:33)Hi T8, my view is: Men are NOT called Angels (as you are proclaiming), they deliver a message.While Angelic beings are being described by the Hebrew word מַלְאָך malak.                    …this is not that complicated.EdJ. Read this scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,01:33)Hi T8, my view is: Men are NOT called Angels (as you are proclaiming), they deliver a message.While Angelic beings are being described by the Hebrew word מַלְאָך malak.                  …this is not that complicated.EdJ. Read this scripture and tell me if the following point is correct.John 20:11-1311 But Mary…[Read more]

Edj. I will spell it out for you.Your confidence does not match your evidence.Be real. Being honest and humble is better than exalting your view higher than it should be. Better to say, “I think” than what you have said above.I mean if you are wrong and you sway people because of your false confidence, then you are doing exactly what Evolutionists…[Read more]

Ed J, read the earlier posts from you.You came in like a knight ready to defend or help Nick.You did all these flash moves with your sword, but when we challenged you, your sword nearly fell out of your hand.Here is a quote to look at:Quote Are multiple types of beings called angels…          No. Quote To suggest they are, is to play games with…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,01:01)Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,09:45)To all;You all know it is written that the the World to come is not subject to Messengers.  If you state Messengers means both man and angelic beings then you state it is not subject to Jesus Christ.  You know that is not true. That leaves you with two possibilities which are:1}  …[Read more]

Ed J. I am going to write different posts over a period of time, and will be likely copying and pasting from other sites to save time.I copied the following from http://www.thebiblewayonline.com/Studies/A-%20Angels%20General.htmI cannot verify if the quote below is absolutely correct, but I read a few other sites that said pretty much the same…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 30 2012,18:25)Ed, thanks for proving how silly that sounded in Greek.My Greek is more than limited, so I immediately looked up this word:Άγγελοι:  “angel” or “messenger/envoy.”So, in Greek, you said that “humans are not called Does the word “messenger(s)” appear in your Bible ed?  Does it ever apply to “humans”?  If so, case cl…[Read more]

Don't know david.

Also interesting to note that angels who appeared before men often looked like men. We are not taught anywhere how this is accomplished, but it appears that these spirits can partake of a body like ours or at least change in appearance to look like men.Even the Sodomites thought they were men.

Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,12:30)The word “morphe” indicates and outward appearance, and the scripture in Philippians states:Quote 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,12:30)Hi t8:You say:Quote Interestingly enough Jesus has been seen while in this glory, and that glory was what he had before the world began.Here's the thing Marty.I only quoted you scripture and you took it to mean that he existed as a sentient person. I made no such reference in this post. So it was you who…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,20:35)2) But, because the English translators translated it to messenger instead of Angel – it does not.OK, so this is the evidence for you view.I will take a look at this.Thanks for clarifying that.

Righteous skeptics aren't too bad.

Ed J, I am not following you here.Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,16:55)Hi T8,It lends support to your belief.But the fact that the English translators translated it the way they did, supports my belief.This is as clear as mud.Let's start again.”It lends support that men are called malak/angels/messengers” should be:”It does support that men are called…[Read more]

There really isn't that much to understand here.It is obvious that the word malak/angel/messenger is applied to heavenly messengers and men too.It is also obvious that the word angel at times refers exclusively to heavenly beings in particular.That is why context is important. There is no one rule here.Similarly, the words theos & elohim are…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 27 2012,13:53)Hi t8:I asked “Can you see a spirit”, not if you can see “a spirit that has a body”, and even so, you can see the body, but you cannot see the spirit except through the life that is lived through the body.And can you show me by the scriptures that Jesus had a body prior to being born into this world?Love in…[Read more]