Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 14 2012,12:43)Hi Gene,Let's try question #2 again – as you misunderstood my question… I asked: who is Michael fighting – if non a Real Entity?2) You say Michael is a “Real Entity” – why not Satan? <– please answerYeah howz about it Gene.Maybe his lack of free will means he cannot decide to do this Ed.

Every person to date I have met who believes that the KJV is the only true translation (or is the exclusive Word), is unbalanced in some way. This has been my experience to date. e.g., a person who tried to convince me the KJV was the only true translation ran this cult in the South Island of New Zealand. He is in prison today for sexual…[Read more]

Yet who is the one who is surprised at such a notion. Not me. You. It is obvious, logical, and not surprising at all.The only surprise to be had is from Atheists and those who for the first time see the light I suppose.

It is possible that John used scribes for his writings and that he didn't pen the books himself. But whatever the method, he was writing to a Greek speaking part of the world, so on that point alone it seems that I don't have to mention that you usually write in the language of your intended audience. John wrote to the seven churches. All seven…[Read more]

LU, Yes there is a Hebrew concept for Word and a Greek one. Tell me about the Aramaic concept for Logos or Word.

That is a stretch. Look how many words you needed to use to support the idea that it was OK or normal to add in whole sentences in scripture.Most of the discrepancies between the KJV and more modern versions has little to do with writers adding in extra sentences like the instance you are now promoting, rather has more to do with the KJV using a…[Read more]

Now what about John's books. He was in the territory of Greek-speaking people, i.e., Asia Minor and Ephesus. And Revelation was specifically sent to churches in seven Greek-speaking cities. In addition to that, it is John who introduces us to the Logos. Logos was a Greek concept that was familiar with Greeks and John used that word because he was…[Read more]

LU.I think you are trying to force this whole thing way too much. You have an agenda and you will clutch at any straw that will help this thing look like it floats.A person translating from Aramaic to Greek does not and should not write Mark in that fashion if you were doing a faithful translation. You would just say, Jesus said, “My God, my God,…[Read more]

LU, before we move on to your questioning, how about a wrap up of what I have said above. e.g., what about Mark who quotes Jesus in Aramaic, but is obviously writing in a different language.Also, as to which version came first, those that refute that the Aramaic came first have nothing to gain from saying that as the Peshitta seems to have a…[Read more]

I amhttp://aramaicnt.com/Research/The%20Name%20of%20God.pdfI am not sure if you referred the above document to me, but somehow I ended up there. Regardless, it's stance appears to be the same as yours.In this document, his references to “I am” are absolutely wrong. He makes the claim that “I am” is an incomplete reference on its own and thus must…[Read more]

PeshittaFrom what I have read, most believe that the Peshitta was translated from the Greek, not the other way around. However, such a topic is not my field of expertise although I am not sure that I have a field of expertise at all, I will likely from here use other evidence perhaps from scripture itself to challenge your view.

Peter and PaulPeter wrote his first epistle from Rome to “strangers scattered” abroad in five provinces of Asia Minor (1 Pet. 1:1). These people would have been fluent in the Greek language and it was in a neighboring province that Paul grew up. Paul even used this fact to explain why he knew Greek. See Acts 21:37-39.

JohnJohn wrote his books after the fall of Jerusalem. He was in the territory of Greek-speaking peoples, i.e., Asia Minor and Ephesus. And Revelation was specifically to be sent to churches in seven Greek-speaking cities.

OK, I spent this morning looking around the web for people's views and ideas about the New Testament and the original languages likely used. Here is what I have gleaned.Most believe that the NT books were written in Koine, or common, Greek which was the universal language spoken by many of the common people throughout the Roman Empire.However,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2012,03:25)T8………Surely you Jest, where is the Word “JESUS” written in John 1:1 , isn't that a little hypocritical of you brother when that is exactly what PREEXISTENCES all DO .Wake up Gene. This book is about Jesus and he was not called Jesus/Yeshua when he was in the glory of God before the world began. So…[Read more]

Great thanks for your understanding.Definitely wasn't shown the same grace when I debated with the Trinitarians.

LU. Apologies for not being on HN for a while.My hands are full at the moment with work and family commitments.I definitely want to get to the heart of what you are teaching and why, so I am not giving up this topic.

Hi BG.

Most denominations are based on the Doctrine of the Trinity. My view is to not belong to any denomination, but realise that we are the Body of Christ instead. The latter stance is how the body will be one and not divided, and the former will continue to discourage the world from believing that Jesus is from God.

John 17:20-21
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