To recap, you have not shown anything that proves you are right. What you have demonstrated thus far is an opinion and you are dressing it up as fact.It is an opinion and why not be honest about that.I have no agenda here. I usually know truth when I hear it, but the thing is you need to hear it. Truth makes everything make sense too. Nothing you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2012,18:34)If you believe what you said here, then you cannot say that you know for sure that the offspring wasn't always within the Father from eternity and that the Father wasn't always a Father of a Son.A son is an offspring or comes from a father.The Father is the source of the son.That is good enough to me. I don't…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2012,18:34)t8,Thanks for those answers. I didn't see any scriptural references though, do you have any scriptural defense of your ideas?you said this:Quote Who knows within the realms of eternity when certain things like father-hood and nature apply.If you believe what you said here, then you cannot say that you know for…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2012,16:53)our difference is only in what I said that the spirit that return to God his our soul ,because the soul his the spirit part of usWhat about the spirit that made Adam a living soul. Was not that spirit given by God that resulted in him having a living soul.Also, it is written somewhere that we know we are the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2012,06:29)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 30 2012,04:00)That is why when it is removed, you are no longer here, but your spirit still obviously exists somewhere, whether in a sleep or not.The spirit goes back to Him who gave it.  It is the soul that begins to exist somewhere else as the body begins to decay.  That “somewhere else” i…[Read more]

God is one. This is a tenet of true faith and the first commandment.But some false Apostles and teachers come here teaching that God is trinue and even biune,  i.e..,  made up of 2 or 3 persons.God is a HIM, not THEM. YHWH is him not them.Remember the first commandment and you will do well.These false teachers cannot identify God as HIM (ever) w…[Read more]

If you ask a man who is blind if he is blind he will say he is.If you ask a man who has made himself blind and God has turned him over to his chosen blindness, he will likely argue that he is not blind.

I see this guy is still prophecying.God’s Church believes that on May 27th God revealed we had entered the “day” of Christ’s return, but that it was a “prophetic day” which is a literal year in length, from God’s Holy Day of Pentecost of 2012 to Pentecost of 2013. We now have 35 weeks remaining before the coming of the King of kings to reign over…[Read more]

I wasn't paying attention. Did the world end in 2008?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 27 2012,04:09)They are false teachers who preach Jesus as perexisting his berth on the earth .If true, that makes at the writers of the New Testament false. Clearly, you have to be wrong.John 17:5“And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began”.We believe this, you guys…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2012,11:29)A literal begotten Son of God would be the very God of very God/the very God begotten of very God…like begets like…the only begotten God. 'Like begets like' is so easy to understand, children have no problem with this, why do some adults on here have problems with this.Let's do a little exercise to show…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2012,13:14)Cain was the very adam of very adam, too. But he wasn't the very Adam of very Adam, was he?True Mike.It will be interesting to see what delusion will be put up as a defense as to why this is wrong.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2012,12:59)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2012,22:33)But the wise of the world do not like childlike faith and childlike and simple interpretations. No they have to make everything complicated so that they feel that they are the only ones who understand and then you have to go to them for knowledge.Wonderfully put, t8.Thanks Mike.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,13:32)If Adam named his son Adam instead of Cain, your example falls flat.Now you are just been plain silly I think, or maybe you are really that blind. I don't know. Surely you would distinguish Adam from Adam by saying something like Adam senior. You see they would be 2 different identities. Only one can be Adam…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 30 2012,22:32)T,Man has both a physical side and a spiritual side. Both exist in this World and ergo this World is not solely a physical World.Correct. However, it is true that our physical bodies limit us from going places that say spirit beings can access.I am not sure what the dispute is here because yes we have a spirit,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 29 2012,13:45)T8,Explicitly means something that is written out and not derived.  You on the other hand are arguing that Ephesians 6:12 infers there is a physical realm because a flesh and blood body is a physical body.You also believe it infers the heavenly realms are non-physical because it states “spiritual forces” are in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2012,15:31)T8,The literal word interpreted as “natural” is soulish.  So there is a soulish body, which you claim is dead without the Spirit; and there is a Spiritual body, that lives because of the Spirit.Correct Kerwin.And there are 2 measures of the Spirit.There is the breath, which is given to all once which gives us…[Read more]

BD, Earth has things that are created in the likeness of Heaven. e.g., the River of Life and the water system on Earth both sustain life.But man pro-creates and angels do not as they are a direct creation.The Quran indirectly suggests that Heaven is the image of Earth and pro-creation.This is carnal and appeals to carnal men.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2012,11:29)A literal begotten Son of God would be the very God of very God/the very God begotten of very God…like begets like…the only begotten God. 'Like begets like' is so easy to understand, children have no problem with this, why do some adults on here have problems with this.Do you understand the difference…[Read more]