Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 16 2012,08:41)Actually we are adopted by God by our spirits being regenerated. We will not have the same DNA as God (so to speak) but the only begotten God will. Adopted kids do not carry the same DNA as their adoptive parents. Biology 101And here we go again with the not carnal biology lesson. So long as you don't point to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 16 2012,08:41)Yeshua who is YHWH the Lord of lords is the servant of YHWH the God of gods. The Son always has a heart of a servant to the Father, He is a perfect Son, afterall. Solomon was considered a servant to his father David.Wake up Kathi.If it says that Jesus is the son or servant of YHWH then that is a true saying.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 16 2012,08:41)We won't have a body like the one Christ had before He became flesh. We did not eternally exist in a true way within the Father, we existed in an imagined way, in His mind.You are wrong.I have said that we will have a body like his.That is all I said. Simple as that.Don't complicate things with additions that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 16 2012,08:41)Don't make it out to be something other than what it was intended to be…an example of one cell coming from another as an offspring of the other, exactly like the other.Sorry but you say I am carnal and you use the basic physical cell to describe something about God and his son. If you cannot see the irony,…[Read more]

limjunus it is true that we must be in the Church, the Body of Christ.What is it though. A denomination? No.It is a temple made up of living stones. Therefore, we do not go to Church, rather, we are the Church because we are the stones filled with the spirit of God.And yes fellowship is very important just as these stones are fitted together by…[Read more]

John 17:3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.Let's be honest. Trinitarians do not believe this scripture among many others.

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 16 2012,04:56)Man is a triune being, Spirit, soul and body.And is the spirit, soul, and body all separate persons.No.This analogy is a fail then.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 12 2012,20:04)I believe that the Son was always within the Father till He beget Him before creation.If He wasn't within the Father always in eternity past till He beget Him before creation, then the Father would not have been the Father always in eternity past.This is irrelevant because are we not also in his mind. Or did…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 12 2012,04:53)I agree with this and my example of cell life shows one cell asexually reproducing to beget another cell exactly like the parent cell. This is not an example of co-joined twins but it is an example of one identical cell coming from another.You accuse me of being carnal and then go onto teaching how YHWH is…[Read more]

Quick question: When Jesus appeared, was this prior to his raising to Heaven? I think he had not yet gone to the Father.If so, then this suggests that he was raised to the Earth in his physical suit. And after he was raised to Heaven, we know from the Book of Revelation that his hair is as white as snow, face brighter than the sun, and legs like…[Read more]

Kerwin, I think you have a valid point. Jesus certainly said he was not a spirit when he appeared.But we do not know the full picture from our perspective. If a spirit being can take on flesh at will, then that still leaves it open that Jesus has a spiritual body in Heaven, and on Earth is able to take on flesh at will. In other words the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2012,23:38)T8,Scripture in no way explicitly teaches that Jesus existed before he was conceived.  You and others believe it is inferred by certain passages.Kerwin, I believe these and teach this.You appear to oppose this because you couldn't repeat this with honest belief in your heart. I can repeat these with absolute…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,14:43)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57W-6lykHU&feature=relatedI will may need EdJ,to help me here.Thank you master.All americans will be chipped by march 2013.many will welcome the idea because of no knowledge in prophesies.The idea looks very good,but the purpose behind it is evil. It is against Gods will.Rev.14:9.…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,18:32)Hi T8,But the spirit of God “IS” the God that he is the spirit of.     …to use your lingo.Likewise the word of God “IS” the God that he is the word of. (see John 1:1)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou missed the point. OF has a meaning. You ignore it sometimes. Anyway you slice it…[Read more]

Thanks wakeup.While the number is of a man, the image of the beast could likely add to that too being that it is an image.

Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 12 2012,17:16)One reason against TV being the image of the beast is that the false prophet forces people to worship this image! So this image is going to represent/speak for this first beast and that first beast ONLY…TV is not exclusive nor does it stand for one thing and one thing only.Every nation already has its own…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 12 2012,05:11)t8-The Lamb/the Son/the only begotten God is a theosThe God/the Father is a theosTwo perfect beings/presences who are each a theos acting together as one most high authority. One theos comes from the other, both identical yet one coming from the other as a son comes from a father in an asexual reproductive…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 12 2012,04:53)t8-You said:Quote The son came from the Father. Jesus said if you do not believe that I came from God then you don't believe Jesus testimony and you instead believe a lie and the Father of lies is the Devil. So what subtle lie does the Devil try to convince Eve and other weak vessels that give him an ear? Is…[Read more]

LU, do you believe that God and the Lamb are 2 different beings as mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Or are they somehow both God according to your doctrine?