Quote (Stu @ Oct. 21 2012,23:51)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 21 2012,18:42)We know that lightning exists, but Zeus isnt causing it.How do we know Zeus isn't causing it?StuartYou trip over names.Logic demands a creator.Experience is the only thing that proves who the creator is.Can't be worked out with a test tube.No belief in God is foolish. The…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 23 2012,01:36)Exactly David.Buddhists don't believe in a creator.And Buddism is a religion.Buddabing buddha boing.Atheism is a religion. A belief that requires faith and trust that it is the correct belief.

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2012,17:39)Hi Devolution,I don't see any explanation as to why?      …will you please explain why?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIf all the other beasts oppressed God's people, then why does one not match up with the rest. I think that is what you should be looking at.Although by then, God's pe…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)I will say that if you pray and ask God to command fire down on me He will say NO.I would pray no such thing.Instead I pray that you will love truth to the point that you would love to be correctly rebuked only so that you can be more true and have more understanding of truth.I pray the same for me too.

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)I am beginning to see what you are. You don't know what manner of spirit you are. You are willing to command fire down on all who don't bow down to your bullying words.Hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)A stumbling block??A person who testifies, or teaches a false doctrine lays a stumbling block for others to also fall over.A person who asks a question or says I don't know is honest.A person who teaches that the LORD God is one, obeys the first commandment by believing the most important of these commands.…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)Weather there is 3 Gods or not and find harsh words to me that I believe in a false doctrine etc.If you believe in 3 Gods then it is false doctrine. Yes harsh words, but true. If you don't believe in 3 Gods, then the words remain and they will not be harsh.

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)NO again. I wanted to move on to the thought about 1John 5:7 and, (in light of 1Thes. 5:23), and get away to an endless debate that no one will move from.Oh I understand you wanting to move on. The biggest proof verse for the Trinity is not even a biblical verse. A simple, “Oh I didn't realise that this was…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)NO, if you read and understood what I was saying was that I had no schooling or any info about the Trinity. Only that Jesus died for my sins. I did not get saved because I believed in the Trinity or that I didn't believe in the Trinity.A simple, “I was wrong” or “I don't know” would have sufficed.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:03)t8,You should get to know the shema: “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”I see.”Hear O Israel,Yahweh our Gods, the Yahweh is One substance.”Let's just say that you are on your own with that one.

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)Have you noticed that you are quick to condemn me and others that don't agree with you?I don't condemn anyone. I am quick to point out lies, false doctrine, false teaching, and will point out great teaching even quicker. If I condemn a teaching and someone takes it personally it is because they believe the…[Read more]

Yes feel free to do that, and thanks for asking. Anyone else can join in now that KJ did a runner and could not defend his own teaching

Sorry Edj, are you saying you are a Quinitarian or are you saying you are a Quadatarian.Sorry if I got the wrong number for you, it is hard to keep up with all new developments. I will rehash my list if you are a 5 and not a 4. And I will offer the other number to someone else, so we can have people representing a God that is one person through to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 21 2012,16:38)When I say “original eternal nature” I'm referring to the eternal past.Which comes from the creeds of men.Another God eternally proceeding from the Original God and yet not one without the other and both YHWH, and sharing the same DNA code that is spirit, but excluding angels and men who are born of the spirit…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2012,16:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,18:37)Men cannot be YHWH because of not having the right original eternal nature. One has to have original eternal nature to be YHWH.If one has “original eternal nature”, then there is no chance of that one ever dying.  Jesus died.  Paul says he cannot die AGAIN, because d…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2012,23:02)I disagree with concluding that the descriptive title “sons of God” means angels when mentioned in the Pentateuch because it is used so in the book of Job. Elsewhere in the Pentateuch the children of Israel are called the children of the Most High.Son(s) of God is not an exclusive title. It is usually given to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2012,23:02)There was two lines at time and one was Cain's and Eve explicitly called him “a man”, Genesis 4:1 and Scripture starts his bloodline with him, Genesis 4:17. The second line is Seth's which begins with God creating mankind, who he called Adam, Genesis '5:1.God created adam, male and female.”So God created man in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,10:52)Hi Rich, and as I told you before there is some element of truth in both positions.G. The Trins see God as three…                        <– An incomplete picture F. The non-Trins see God as One…                         <– An incomplete picture                                                              …[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,10:52)t8,That was not even the full post that was quoted. I believe your 'trinity' test is biased. The trinitiarians can substitute the word 'God' with the Father, or with the Son, or with the Holy Spirit. They should not be limited to 'the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit' or 'the trinity.'You are free to change the…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,02:02)MY POINT EXACTLY I have stated several times that i don't believe in 3 separate Gods and even quoting my self Quote I don't care what the arguments there are about the Trinity, who believes it or not. I was saved in a small Baptist church in August 1973. I know without a doubt I had a conversion. The…[Read more]