Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)Weather there is 3 Gods or not and find harsh words to me that I believe in a false doctrine etc.If you believe in 3 Gods then it is false doctrine. Yes harsh words, but true. If you don't believe in 3 Gods, then the words remain and they will not be harsh.

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)NO again. I wanted to move on to the thought about 1John 5:7 and, (in light of 1Thes. 5:23), and get away to an endless debate that no one will move from.Oh I understand you wanting to move on. The biggest proof verse for the Trinity is not even a biblical verse. A simple, “Oh I didn't realise that this was…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)NO, if you read and understood what I was saying was that I had no schooling or any info about the Trinity. Only that Jesus died for my sins. I did not get saved because I believed in the Trinity or that I didn't believe in the Trinity.A simple, “I was wrong” or “I don't know” would have sufficed.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:03)t8,You should get to know the shema: “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”I see.”Hear O Israel,Yahweh our Gods, the Yahweh is One substance.”Let's just say that you are on your own with that one.

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)Have you noticed that you are quick to condemn me and others that don't agree with you?I don't condemn anyone. I am quick to point out lies, false doctrine, false teaching, and will point out great teaching even quicker. If I condemn a teaching and someone takes it personally it is because they believe the…[Read more]

Yes feel free to do that, and thanks for asking. Anyone else can join in now that KJ did a runner and could not defend his own teaching

Sorry Edj, are you saying you are a Quinitarian or are you saying you are a Quadatarian.Sorry if I got the wrong number for you, it is hard to keep up with all new developments. I will rehash my list if you are a 5 and not a 4. And I will offer the other number to someone else, so we can have people representing a God that is one person through to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 21 2012,16:38)When I say “original eternal nature” I'm referring to the eternal past.Which comes from the creeds of men.Another God eternally proceeding from the Original God and yet not one without the other and both YHWH, and sharing the same DNA code that is spirit, but excluding angels and men who are born of the spirit…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 21 2012,16:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,18:37)Men cannot be YHWH because of not having the right original eternal nature. One has to have original eternal nature to be YHWH.If one has “original eternal nature”, then there is no chance of that one ever dying.  Jesus died.  Paul says he cannot die AGAIN, because d…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2012,23:02)I disagree with concluding that the descriptive title “sons of God” means angels when mentioned in the Pentateuch because it is used so in the book of Job. Elsewhere in the Pentateuch the children of Israel are called the children of the Most High.Son(s) of God is not an exclusive title. It is usually given to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2012,23:02)There was two lines at time and one was Cain's and Eve explicitly called him “a man”, Genesis 4:1 and Scripture starts his bloodline with him, Genesis 4:17. The second line is Seth's which begins with God creating mankind, who he called Adam, Genesis '5:1.God created adam, male and female.”So God created man in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,10:52)Hi Rich, and as I told you before there is some element of truth in both positions.G. The Trins see God as three…                        <– An incomplete picture F. The non-Trins see God as One…                         <– An incomplete picture                                                              …[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,10:52)t8,That was not even the full post that was quoted. I believe your 'trinity' test is biased. The trinitiarians can substitute the word 'God' with the Father, or with the Son, or with the Holy Spirit. They should not be limited to 'the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit' or 'the trinity.'You are free to change the…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,02:02)MY POINT EXACTLY I have stated several times that i don't believe in 3 separate Gods and even quoting my self Quote I don't care what the arguments there are about the Trinity, who believes it or not. I was saved in a small Baptist church in August 1973. I know without a doubt I had a conversion. The…[Read more]

And as for you saying that Jesus or the Father is the God of this age, then you are very much mistaken.God is not the ruler of this world. Rather God warns us to not be of the world. We are warned that if we love the world, then the love of the Father is not in us.You err again. Once you accept false doctrine to the point of teaching it, it is…[Read more]

Pay attention LU. Did I not say to you that when you see a term THE GOD with the definite article and without OF, that it defaults to YHWH unless the context is already talking about another identity such as an idol etc. Also, you may not be aware, but this verse can equally be interpreted as The Lord of me and the God of me as referring to Jesus…[Read more]

Also an interesting point. The further out we look the faster the universe is expanding. This means that the parts of the universe that are travelling faster than light if that is the case, have dropped of our radar, leading to the possibility that the universe is much bigger than the known universe. The known universe is that which is expanding…[Read more]

It could also be argued with the Law of Gravity that an even bigger thing than the universe is the creating the force of attraction for the expanding universe.

That explains why I put on a couple of kilos recently. And unfortunately will be harder to get rid of coz the balloon just keeps getting bigger.

Quote (david @ Oct. 23 2012,15:35)My brother believes he saw a flying saucer.  So, he believes. Sure, there are 100 more likely possibilities, but, he experienced what he experienced, and he reshaped memories around it.   And it's hard to argue with what someone believes they feel.Seeing a UFO means nothing. Because it is a flying object that is u…[Read more]