Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:56)Here you skeptics go, t8, Mike, Pierre…plenty of scripture to help you see.Watch all four videos here:http://dawnmarie4.wordpress.com/an-unex….stamentHa ha. I told you that you would end up being a Trinitarian.I said you were fast tracking the history of the development of the Trinity by starting with the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:45)Nah, He never emptied Himself of Himself. He was still YHWH the Son when He was also man.Oh this is getting real interesting now.YHWH 1 is the Father and doesn't have a name.YHWH 2 has the name Yeshua and he emptied himself of something.So lets revise the theory so far:Another God eternally proceeding from the…[Read more]

t8 to Stu1 and Stu2 over.There are some posts for you one page back over.Please respond over.

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,02:35)I must have thought that was really important, I said it twice.   But seriously T8, your definition of religion and faith does not seem to be the generally accepted definition of those two words.Perhaps you can tell us what they mean to you.TimSorry Tim. But believing that the universe came from nothing is…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,02:21)Quote (Stu @ Oct. 25 2012,22:19)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,22:11)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,00:15)Yes it is. Even if they do not believe in a creator God, they do believe in various gods and angels. And they have faith that these things exist.And scientists believe that…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:37)Do you agree that you would expect the same job to be done in a similar way in the biological world because “code is reused”?No. I could use a mechanical engine to run a car or as an electrical generator. Same tech, different application.Please focus on my last post. There is a challenge for both Stus.Thanks.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:32)Black holes were a prediction based on models that were in turn based on evidence.Exactly what I have said all along. Are you paying attention?We can work things out based on evidence and logic. You don't have to see it.You are the one who said “evidence of the unseen” was an oxymoron. And you have made similar…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:16)You seem to be agreeing with me, and contradicting your previous claim there, t8.How does a subsequent generation in the way you are describing it conform to your claim “Logic says that all things were created, came from nothing, or have always existed in some form.”?StuartYou really do not understand do you.It all…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:13)“the evidence of the unseen” is an oxymoron.Coblers. Black Holes were never witnessed and were figured out from Mathematics and Physics that allowed for such a possibility and possibly even demanded it. Then one was witnessed after the fact.Scientists had faith that they had existed up until the point that it was…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,00:15)Yes it is. Even if they do not believe in a creator God, they do believe in various gods and angels. And they have faith that these things exist.And scientists believe that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.So not a religion.Makes perfect sense TimothyVI.Further,…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:49)That isn't creation, it isn't something arising from nothing, and it isn't an example of something that “always” existed (where always can't be any longer than 13.7 billion years).Interesting comment.Not created.Not from nothing.Not something that always existed.Please enlighten us. If you actually have another…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:49)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,21:44)Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,20:18)Logic demands a creator.Logic says that created things were made by a creator. StuartLogic says that all things were created, came from nothing, or have always existed in some form.Empirical evidence says that the variety…[Read more]

Wrong.Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.It is the evidence of things not seen.Not the lack of evidence.Faith is actually confidence and trust.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,20:18)Logic demands a creator.Logic says that created things were made by a creator. StuartLogic says that all things were created, came from nothing, or have always existed in some form.See wasn't so hard. Come on I know you refused to debate me on this because you knew you would lose. But…[Read more]

If they believe that, then that is a belief is it not.You see, even you are religious just like the Buddhists who don't believe in God. You have faith, beliefs etc. You accept and reject certain things because you trust them to be so, even though you have not one ounce of proof.And you even have your very own prophet too. How is prophet Hawking…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,00:15)Yes it is. Even if they do not believe in a creator God, they do believe in various gods and angels. And they have faith that these things exist.And scientists believe that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.So not a religion.Makes perfect sense TimothyVI.

I don't go with any theory as I see a few different theories that can fit the evidence.As for the Islam Empire, they are waiting for the Mahdi which I have heard from at least one teacher, fits the bill as the Antichrist of the Bible.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 25 2012,05:30)captivated and influenced willGene, a captivated will is one where you can only choose that which the captor wants to you to choose.God wants you to choose him, but he never makes him the only choice. You are free to not choose him. You are free to replace God with money for example. You have enough…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 25 2012,19:29)Free-will suggests, that your choices are independant from God, and “free”. There isn't a will that is free.Actually without God you would not have anything to choose from. And without the Devil, you have nothing to choose that is outside of God.Now that we are influenced by both, you are free to choose…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 25 2012,05:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 24 2012,07:13)Thanks to God, Dennison and Gene have the FREE WILL to decide whether or not they CHOOSE to believe in FREE WILL.  Mike……….I do not have a Will that is “FREE” God allows me “LIBERTY” or “FREEDOM” to express my captivated and influenced will Nothing Free about…[Read more]