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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:32)Black holes were a prediction based on models that were in turn based on evidence.Exactly what I have said all along. Are you paying attention?We can work things out based on evidence and logic. You don't have to see it.You are the one who said “evidence of the unseen” was an oxymoron. And you have made similar…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:16)You seem to be agreeing with me, and contradicting your previous claim there, t8.How does a subsequent generation in the way you are describing it conform to your claim “Logic says that all things were created, came from nothing, or have always existed in some form.”?StuartYou really do not understand do you.It all…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,01:13)“the evidence of the unseen” is an oxymoron.Coblers. Black Holes were never witnessed and were figured out from Mathematics and Physics that allowed for such a possibility and possibly even demanded it. Then one was witnessed after the fact.Scientists had faith that they had existed up until the point that it was…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,00:15)Yes it is. Even if they do not believe in a creator God, they do believe in various gods and angels. And they have faith that these things exist.And scientists believe that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.So not a religion.Makes perfect sense TimothyVI.Further,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:49)That isn't creation, it isn't something arising from nothing, and it isn't an example of something that “always” existed (where always can't be any longer than 13.7 billion years).Interesting comment.Not created.Not from nothing.Not something that always existed.Please enlighten us. If you actually have another…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:49)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,21:44)Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,20:18)Logic demands a creator.Logic says that created things were made by a creator. StuartLogic says that all things were created, came from nothing, or have always existed in some form.Empirical evidence says that the variety…[Read more]

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    Wrong.Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.It is the evidence of things not seen.Not the lack of evidence.Faith is actually confidence and trust.

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2012,00:27)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,20:18)Logic demands a creator.Logic says that created things were made by a creator. StuartLogic says that all things were created, came from nothing, or have always existed in some form.See wasn't so hard. Come on I know you refused to debate me on this because you knew you would lose. But…[Read more]

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    If they believe that, then that is a belief is it not.You see, even you are religious just like the Buddhists who don't believe in God. You have faith, beliefs etc. You accept and reject certain things because you trust them to be so, even though you have not one ounce of proof.And you even have your very own prophet too. How is prophet Hawking…[Read more]

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 26 2012,00:15)Yes it is. Even if they do not believe in a creator God, they do believe in various gods and angels. And they have faith that these things exist.And scientists believe that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.So not a religion.Makes perfect sense TimothyVI.

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    I don't go with any theory as I see a few different theories that can fit the evidence.As for the Islam Empire, they are waiting for the Mahdi which I have heard from at least one teacher, fits the bill as the Antichrist of the Bible.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 25 2012,05:30)captivated and influenced willGene, a captivated will is one where you can only choose that which the captor wants to you to choose.God wants you to choose him, but he never makes him the only choice. You are free to not choose him. You are free to replace God with money for example. You have enough…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 25 2012,19:29)Free-will suggests, that your choices are independant from God, and “free”. There isn't a will that is free.Actually without God you would not have anything to choose from. And without the Devil, you have nothing to choose that is outside of God.Now that we are influenced by both, you are free to choose…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 25 2012,05:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 24 2012,07:13)Thanks to God, Dennison and Gene have the FREE WILL to decide whether or not they CHOOSE to believe in FREE WILL.  :)Mike……….I do not have a Will that is “FREE” God allows me “LIBERTY” or “FREEDOM” to express my captivated and influenced will Nothing Free about…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 21 2012,23:51)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 21 2012,18:42)We know that lightning exists, but Zeus isnt causing it.How do we know Zeus isn't causing it?StuartYou trip over names.Logic demands a creator.Experience is the only thing that proves who the creator is.Can't be worked out with a test tube.No belief in God is foolish. The…[Read more]

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 23 2012,01:36)Exactly David.Buddhists don't believe in a creator.And Buddism is a religion.Buddabing buddha boing.Atheism is a religion. A belief that requires faith and trust that it is the correct belief. :p

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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2012,17:39)Hi Devolution,I don't see any explanation as to why?      …will you please explain why?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIf all the other beasts oppressed God's people, then why does one not match up with the rest. I think that is what you should be looking at.Although by then, God's pe…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)I will say that if you pray and ask God to command fire down on me He will say NO.I would pray no such thing.Instead I pray that you will love truth to the point that you would love to be correctly rebuked only so that you can be more true and have more understanding of truth.I pray the same for me too.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)I am beginning to see what you are. You don't know what manner of spirit you are. You are willing to command fire down on all who don't bow down to your bullying words.Hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,15:56)A stumbling block??A person who testifies, or teaches a false doctrine lays a stumbling block for others to also fall over.A person who asks a question or says I don't know is honest.A person who teaches that the LORD God is one, obeys the first commandment by believing the most important of these commands.…[Read more]

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