Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,19:39)I have a question for the skeptics who believe that Jesus was created, t8, Mike and all. I don't believe he was created. Creation is defined as all that was made by God through Christs/Word.Jesus is special in that he is the first born of all creation. Then all things that were created were created by God…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,19:01)Each is YHWH because each eternally existed. Their Spirit is united to be one spirit within believers.Okay. You need to tell God about this. I don't think he is aware of this LU as he never revealed this to us in scripture.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,18:50)I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Yes I know that. You teach 2 gods. The God Father, and the God Son. Each is YHWH because they are melded together by the spirit according to you.We (Paul, Mike, Terr, myself, others believe in one God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2012,18:23)At least Kathi's being honest about the number of Almighty Gods she believes in.Yes she is straight up about there being 2 Gods. 2 Yahwehs. 2 Most Highs.The LORDS her GODs are 2 gods.However, I thought she converted to the Trinity from a recent post of hers. Could never find it again though among all the…[Read more]

Okay so you bring a false teaching and you are somehow not accountable for it and feel that you are being persecuted because I give you scripture that disagreed with your stance. Did you expect me to say “good one” or something?Your problem RT, I am only the messenger. As I said before, the ball is in your court not mine. You can hate me or say…[Read more]

EdJ.I asked you a question that requires an answer.I will not read your BUTS (rebuttals) till I get a YES or a NO. And it is a required question. A lack of answer earns a square. That goes for me too.Here is the question again. Please answer as this is the Hot Seat. Let your YES be yes and your NO be no. No more dodges please.Does Haggai 1:13 use…[Read more]

Haggai 1:1313 Then Haggai, the LORD's messenger, gave this message of the LORD to the people: “I am with you,” declares  the LORD.The word messenger is a translation from the word mal'ak {mal-awk'}.That is the word for angel and it is applied to a MAN called Haggai.Now compare it with say Genesis 16:7.The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a…[Read more]

Hi Ed. We will take the conversation from here.I am putting you on this Hot Seat.

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 28 2012,00:17)Hi David,I believe Nick left because he felt 'bullied' by T8 putting him on the hot seat over T8's belief that men are called Angels.  (which of course they are not)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed.I want to put you on the Hot Seat regarding this topic.I ask that we use the same…[Read more]

Yeah David, no problem asking about Nick.I was just a little curious that this thread made you think of him.

RT. If I refute a doctrine, teaching, or belief, and back it up, then you need to show me why I am wrong.Shooting the messenger is pointless and is usually interpreted as being a reply when one's pride has been hurt and they cannot refute what is being said. Whether you know it or not, it is a good thing that all things are tested.This is pretty…[Read more]

Law of attraction Stu.Larger objects move smaller things toward them, even stretching smaller things so that they increase in size.

I have chosen freely to say that I have free will.Gene has chosen freely to believe that there is no free will.Free will allows for this outcome.Happy free willing everyone.Maybe we should have a day in the year when we celebrate free will. Free will day. How about it Gene. What is your will on this?

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 27 2012,14:26)t8, you haven't said much other than the same old thing trying to promote yourself as the only one that has truth.The bible says not to cast your pearls before sine and not to suffer a fool. I have no more to say to you about this post because you only hear what you want to hear.I gave you scripture. Up to you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,17:28)The son of the Most High God, the Father, is the Most High God, the Son. Ta da! Easy! Simple! Fool proof!Fool proof?No foolish.Ta da?What about 'to do'. You need 'to do' something with that post because:”For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.See…[Read more]

Richtuner, if you can't face what I said, then that is not my problem. I have only quoted scripture in response to your teaching. A reasonable thing to do.Say what you like about me, but the scripture I gave you is a witness to you now and it is up to you as to what you do with these words. I give you scripture and you give me criticism. I am only…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 26 2012,03:25)You see this is my point. You still accuse me of something I don't believe. Calling people out and telling them they are false teachers and lairs and stumbling blocks when they clearly have stated something different means you have a problem with hearing or reading. You are fixated on the Trinity and look for…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2012,13:26)How is Nick doing?Why did this post make you think of Nick?He went to Australia for a holiday and is spending time with family. He lives in a different island from me, so don't hang out with him.