Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,13:24)For a long time, I assumed that the two moderators of the time: nick and T8 had similar beliefs. Then, to my shock and horror, I realized that nick believes that people are tortured in a fiery hell for all time. t8 disagrees with that. t8 chose someone to moderate this forum who was teaching that God is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 31 2012,07:31)“yes” that t8 was asking for.  WHY ED?     Why must you rebel like that?Is it so hard for you to just say “YES” to t8's question?  You've gone through this with me a lot of times,Amazing isn't it Mike. A man who avoids simple yes or no questions is hiding something. Matthew 5:37Simply let your 'Yes' be &#0…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,07:59)Hi Mike,Is not the purpose of this forum to help establish “truth” through brotherly cooperation?And how exactly does let your yes be yes and your no be not help establish truth?It is the opposite EdJ.It helps because avoiding a yes and no question is usually designed to stops a person from seeing the simple by…[Read more]

Yes Ed you are all upset about nothing.It obviously riles you that you have to let your yes be yes and your no be no. So I take it that 'confirmed' means yes to my question? Please answer.IMO, if a person kicks and screams as much as possible rather than answer a simple and reasonable yes & no question, then that person is not being 100% honest or…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2012,20:20)My point in my quote was to point out that because a few people that have very similar thoughts does not give them the rights to become the intermediaries between God and man or between Christ and men,And to prove the point further, there are many groups that are united and yet all believe different…[Read more]

I agree Terr.Matthew 7:21-23“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.And if the will of Jesus is to do and say the will of God, then he wanted us to be one. But men do not obey the will of God and think that they can set their own Church up. This…[Read more]

One more chance EdJ.Yes or no.A post with nothing else please, otherwise a tile is coming your way.I will then read and challenge what you have additionally posted after that.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2012,04:15)Hear, O Israel; Yahweh our Elohim is ONE.Btw, Elohim is a plural word so no need to add an s to it.Let's put this into the kathi 2012 Translation.Hear, O Israel; YHWHs our gods is ONE substance.BTW, Elohim is a word that can be used as plural or singular. Context is important in establishing if it is singular…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2012,04:15)2) Hear, O Israel; Yahweh our Elohim is ONE2) Hear, O Israel; Yahweh our Elohim is ONE + (please read the conditions as laid out in the Terms of Conditions below).2) Hear, O Israel; Yahweh our Elohim is ONE substance that spawns 2 persons. He is Biune and not one person. All references to HIM is not to be…[Read more]

Hi Kathi. Will answer. I will knock off a couple of easy ones first and then give some thought as to what you are asking.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 29 2012,08:54)The bible doesnt teach falsely, you and Mike and T8 do concerning Jesus preexistence as a sentinel Being before his berth on this earth.The bible teaches that he existed in the form of God before coming as a man. This is what we believe.Replace the words 'sentinel being' with 'the form of God' and then you…[Read more]

The fact that the Jews took Jesus to mean that he existed before Abraham at least shows that this was linguistically possible. And the confirmation as to this understanding has many witness scriptures.1) Linguistically correct.2) Agrees with many other scriptures.  Also, when Jesus was asked if he was Jesus just before his crucifixion he said, 'I…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,20:30)Yet you believe that Jesus was not eternal but had a beginning to His existence. When was that, t8?Approximately 1,009,876,690,545,443.987987987 light years before creation. NOTE: I might be out by a .00001 of a nanosecond.

RT, the title of this thread is aptly named: “Coming back for more”.It is better to discuss this topic in the correct thread.See you there.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,07:53)“Is that a deal?” Are you joking? Are you really needing to 'make a deal' before you will answer my questions?Yes.

The Trinity Doctrine states that God is triune and each member is 100% God and co-equal.How about we go from there, but not here. Instead we should discuss in the Topic you created.

The Trinity is a false doctrine instituted by the Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire, and Roman Catholic Church.Many have died for challenging it.Then you come here and teach it and I challenged you.I know it upsets a lot of people because many have died opposing it in history.You are also upset, but do not have the power to kill me. Nevertheless,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,20:35)t8,I have asked you the question about how many are on the throne about three times now between this thread and another thread and you have avoided answering it even though you have responded to other parts of my post to you.Okay. I will answer if you answer these 2 questions. Is that a deal?How many men are…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,20:30)Yet you believe that Jesus was not eternal but had a beginning to His existence. When was that, t8?I don't believe that Jesus was created by God through Jesus.I believe he came from God directly. He was begotten. He existed in the FORM of God, not as God himself.He was the first born. The prototype.It is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,19:39)If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.The Son is the only begotten/monogenes son. (Firstborn/prototokos of all creation.) He is preeminent.Similarly, Israel was also the firstborn meaning that Israel had precedence above all other nations