The crazy thing is Mike is “I am” (Ego Eimi) is mentioned a number of times in scripture by Jesus and other beings such as angels and men and as far as I have read, not one is talking about being a mere memory, but is directly relating the words to them existing.Yet they take Jesus one to have a different meaning. And why do they do that. One word. “BIAS”.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 30 2012,05:26)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 29 2012,19:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 29 2012,08:54)The bible doesnt teach falsely, you and Mike and T8 do concerning Jesus preexistence as a sentinel Being before his berth on this earth.The bible teaches that he existed in the form of God before coming as a man. This is what we…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:08)Kathi believes in one YHWH Echad, the eternal unity, that is one eternal God, the Father and one eternal Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God the Father, together with their united Spirit.Can also be said like this right:Kathi believes in one YHWH substance, the eternal unity, that is one eternal God the Father and one…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,00:06)The word 'son' is related to that verse. 'Thou art my Son, today I have begotten you.” This is correct.So Jesus became a son that day. What happened the day before? Was God still a Father? And to whom?

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,00:02)T8,Why can't you see that I believe in one YHWH Echad that is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ together with their united Spirit. See my signature. If you are going to 'laugh' about what I believe, at least write it in a way that is complete. Why don't you just copy this and save it somewhere if…[Read more]

Okay I couldn't see the word “Father” in the Greek Text.http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/heb5.pdfSo are you saying that the word son is not related to being begotten in that verse?”Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.”

Okay. I hadn't read your previous comment.I checked out the verse in a number of translations and most had it while a few didn't.I will look it up in the Greek.But before I do. You say that God was eternally the Father because he always had a son. Where did you get that from exactly. Your own mind, or do you have a scripture to back this up. Just…[Read more]

Quote I don't know of any fathers who were fathers before their first offspring existed within their parent. Where does it say that he has always been a Father exactly?

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,15:39)Watch the videos, learn something. I'm trying to help you!!Paul of Tarsus: (1) For us there is one God the Father.Kathi of America: (2) For me there is one God the Father and Son.KangarooJack of America: (3) For me there is One God the Father, Son, Spirit.Armstrong: (4) For me there is one God the Father, Son,…[Read more]

Does today mean eternity?”Today I have become your father.”

Actually I thought of a better username for you Mike.Me T8You K9.What about it?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2012,15:46)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 31 2012,18:54)Okay here is something that the 3 musketeers might differ on.I believe I am the best looking one even though I don't know what the others look like.I look exactly like my avatar.  Okay then. I can't compete with that avatar. Too dog gone good.

Exactly. If you had nothing to hide and was willing to learn truth to the point of admitting when you were wrong, then you could answer any reasonable question with yes or no.Not so with EdJ is seems. And I think this has done more damage to his teaching than anything else given that we know people by their fruits. If they can't answer simple yes…[Read more]

Okay here is something that the 3 musketeers might differ on.I believe I am the best looking one even though I don't know what the others look like.

Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,13:24)For a long time, I assumed that the two moderators of the time: nick and T8 had similar beliefs. Then, to my shock and horror, I realized that nick believes that people are tortured in a fiery hell for all time. t8 disagrees with that. t8 chose someone to moderate this forum who was teaching that God is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 31 2012,07:31)“yes” that t8 was asking for.  WHY ED?     Why must you rebel like that?Is it so hard for you to just say “YES” to t8's question?  You've gone through this with me a lot of times,Amazing isn't it Mike. A man who avoids simple yes or no questions is hiding something. Matthew 5:37Simply let your 'Yes' be &#0…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,07:59)Hi Mike,Is not the purpose of this forum to help establish “truth” through brotherly cooperation?And how exactly does let your yes be yes and your no be not help establish truth?It is the opposite EdJ.It helps because avoiding a yes and no question is usually designed to stops a person from seeing the simple by…[Read more]

Yes Ed you are all upset about nothing.It obviously riles you that you have to let your yes be yes and your no be no. So I take it that 'confirmed' means yes to my question? Please answer.IMO, if a person kicks and screams as much as possible rather than answer a simple and reasonable yes & no question, then that person is not being 100% honest or…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2012,20:20)My point in my quote was to point out that because a few people that have very similar thoughts does not give them the rights to become the intermediaries between God and man or between Christ and men,And to prove the point further, there are many groups that are united and yet all believe different…[Read more]

I agree Terr.Matthew 7:21-23“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.And if the will of Jesus is to do and say the will of God, then he wanted us to be one. But men do not obey the will of God and think that they can set their own Church up. This…[Read more]