kathi, this word can mean to worship, honour, or bow down. So the Father is honoured as God, no argument there. Jesus is honoured as the son of God and Lamb of God in scripture, an argument here for some reason. And we can be honoured too. Is it not written that a man should honour his wife and a wife her husband. Are husbands God, are wives…[Read more]

Yes ultimately God's will is done. That is the point.God even uses Satan to round up all who are of Satan in the very end to gather them against the Holy City. Once contained, God destroys all evil once and for all.So you concede now that Satan is the God of this world?

Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 10 2012,07:44)For those who believe in a rapture, before Antichrist begins his “seven” years of reign; I have some bad news, and some good news.There are only “six” years left for that generation to pass, that Jesus said, “would not pass away before all things be fulfilled.”So, is Antichrist late in his appearing? NO!The bad…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 11 2012,03:16)wakeupDoes the Bible speak of anti-Muslims? or anti-budists? anti-Hindus?He is anti-Christ; he calls himself, “vicar of Christ”; he is here instead of Christ.The Pope persecuted all Christians that would not except his doctrines; he had them tortured and killerd; that's what you read in Rev. 13.It is estimated…[Read more]

Gene, yes I am careful not to put on blinders.I can quote these scriptures verbatim or in a general sense and you cannot.You are not free to say these scriptures in your everyday language.You only ever talk about them in order to refute them.I would be worried if I was doing that, and I think you should be worried for the same reason.

If I go for the Combo, I might as well upgrade that to a large lie while I am at it.

Here is the quick answer david.FAITH HEALING – Real, or Fake?Both.Jesus said, “by your faith you have been made whole”. (Something like that.)PROPHECY – Real, or Fake?Both.TEACHING – Real or Fake?BothFake as in false/deceptive/from the enemy.

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,11:22)Another crackpot doctrine newly surfaced:”Even Believers in Christ can be worshiped too.”Please uncrackpot that one LU.Revelation 3:9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,11:21)Quote Who for example who doesn't believe that Jesus was not worshiped.Do you mean to say:Who for example doesn't believe that Jesus was worshiped?If so, the answer is Mike for one.The second 'the theos' is worshiped. I rest my case!LU.Please unrest your case.Jesus is worshiped as the son of God and as the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,14:52)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2012,15:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,03:15)t8,you said:Quote And he is the prototype son and are we not sons of God.He, Jesus, is eternal, we are not. Here lies the difference between being the only begotten/not created son who is God by nature and attributes and being the created son…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2012,20:28)Hmmm…………But Jehovah surely said he would make Moses a god to Aaron, and Aaron would be his prophet.Perhaps Jehovah just didn't know what He was talking about, huh?   Mike, Kathi will need to correct God next.What would be do without her, we would all be lost, even God would be so it seems.

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 11 2012,06:30)Mike,There's only one in authority,and that is the only glorified visible true God, and Jesus christ.The only conclusion I can draw from this statement is that the invisible God that no man has seen or can see is not in authority. This is a direct contradiction of not just one scripture but multiple. Here are 3…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,10:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 03 2012,00:28)I agree, good posts Wm!I would like to add a few crackpot doctrines…#1 Jesus did not create anything.#2 Jesus was not worshiped by His disciples.#3 The God of gods and the Lord of lords that the God of gods sent are not one.The truth:#1-John 1:3 All things were made…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2012,10:50)Do you consider yourself a Christian, t8? Do you consider those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God and one with the Father, together with the Holy Spirit, as non-Christians?What are you on about?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 07 2012,00:54)So is it any different? I don't know, unlike the Son of God or a prophet, I do not feel qualified to judge others characters, only their ideas.Agreed.Titus 1:9: He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

Now let's assume that Stu wrote his post in 1960.Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)That idea is that since no god believer has ever produced unambiguous evidence for his god claim, therefore it is a valid provisional conclusion that the god believer is deluded, and no gods really exist.That's not a faith-based belief that I hold because it is not…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)That idea is that since no god believer has ever produced unambiguous evidence for his god claim, therefore it is a valid provisional conclusion that the god believer is deluded, and no gods really exist.That's not a faith-based belief that I hold because it is not based in evidence, it is a scientific conclusion…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)I do have an idea about whether there is a god or not.Thank you, thank you, thank you for being honest.

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2012,17:10)The NT writers call him LORD, you just don't want to see it. Jesus is the name given the man that YHWH the Son became. YHWH is the name given the pre-existent Son.The NT writers call him Lord. And the NT says that God made Jesus Lord. That alone shows you are wrong.If God made him LORD as you would likely…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2012,17:10)Jesus is the name given the man that YHWH the Son became. YHWH is the name given the pre-existent Son.So the Father is not YHWH then.And if you say that both of them are called by the name YHWH, then you have 2 YHWHs.Either way you are proven wrong.There are not two YHWHs and the Father is definitely YHWH.