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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 16 2013,08:58)What is a foundation?Enough said.Please don't attempt to build a house.Step away from the hammer.

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    We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes
    – Gene Roddenberry

    Gene had it wrong. God doesn’t punish people

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    Proclaimer started the topic Gene Roddenberry in the forum 13 years, 8 months ago

    We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes
    – Gene Roddenberry

    Gene had it wrong. God doesn’t punish people for mistakes, he punishes sin.

    Sin is really just living the way that God intended us not to. It is the opposite way to God’s…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,20:34)We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes – Gene RoddenberryStu, God doesn't punish people for mistakes. He punishes sin.Sin is really just living the way that God intended us not to. It is the opposite way.And why…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,20:34)It's not the expectation of an answer that's in question, it's the punishment aspect that is totalitarian and fascist, as I was at pains to point out.Oooh yes, I see what you mean about the punishment aspect.Could ring up Help Line and tell them that you got tiled. They would be outraged. Actually what a tile is, is…[Read more]

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    Ha ha. No intelligent answers says the man who cannot even demonstrate which foundation by which everything came. Someone eternal, something eternal, or eternal nothing. If you can't answer that, then all else is vanity Stu. Because no matter what you suggest, if it is on the wrong foundation, then it cannot stand.When you can answer that, then I…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    EdJ, the distinction I am making is this:1) Not all have the Holy Spirit, even if they have the breath that gave them life. My guess is that animals have the breath of God too because they have life.2) Our spirits bear witness with God's Spirit that we are the sons of God.

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,20:27)The “Sun” was also created on Day 1, and along with the earth, the rotation of the earth on its axis began. 4. Creation of our Sun 5. Axis rotation of EarthNo comprehendo. You appear to say both Day 1 and 4.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 14 2013,06:31)Quote I control my body,I am the head of my own body.t8,What the “I” stands for?Say simply what do you mean.Peace and love in JesusCharlesI made it clear in my post.I am the soul. I am not my body nor the spirit that gives me life. My body is a container or clay vessel. And I will get a heavenly one.The spirit…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,14:19)Hi T8,Jesus said that the words he spoke were the father's; ………………. (John 12:48-50)and he also said that the words he spoke were “SPIRIT”. …………… (ref. John 6:63)Remember, “The Word” is sharper than any two-edged sword. ……. (ref. Heb 4:12)So the strength of God's Holy Spirit are the very…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 12 2013,09:05)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 09 2013,09:09)Quote God > Christ > Man > Womant8,Answer:WHO COMMANDS YOUR BODY???WHO RULES YOUR BODY???OR MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE SAME CONTEXT:WHO IS THE HEAD OF YOUR BODY???Peace and love in JesusCharlesI control my body. I am the head of my own body. Christ is the head of me.I am not my body. I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,20:28)You think you can choose to transcend your own death.Many before you have thought the same.  From how many of them have we heard since?StuartPoppycock.You don't know what happens at death.

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    It could be that a city is the people and likewise the Church.The Church of Thyatira for example are believers who lived in that city.I mean does Christ marry the buildings and structures?

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    It says on that page:Quote What is an anticipated obituary?An anticipated obituary is, by definition, an obituary written BEFORE the death of a person. It is common for news agencies to keep pre-written obituary for public figures, famous and high-profile people who are still alive.It is by no means a death announcement nor an anticipation of…[Read more]

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    Pre-Trib
    Hear both sides of the argument. Pre-tribulation rapture or post-tribulation rapture?

    Post-Trib

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    Pre-Trib

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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,01:39)My family sent people to Europe and other places to fight against fascist totalitarian aggression, but here we have a website promoting it in the name of religious discussion.It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragically inept.StuartOh yes, expecting an answer from someone when you ask them an intelligent…[Read more]

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    Yes. Of course Natural Selection is just a term that describes something and that something was around before the term.Selecting a mate from more varied gene pool than yourself often produces better offspring (genetically speaking) than marrying within the family.Without being derogatory, mixing dogs has better results than trying to keep the dog…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2013,22:57)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,18:39)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 14 2012,18:47)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,21:40)God is infinite.Infinity isn't a rational number.StuartIf infinity is not real, then everything came from nothing because you are saying that the oldest thing is finite. So before that first thing, there was nothing is the…[Read more]

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