@gadam

Hi Proclaimer, thanks for your patience in replying my post. Yes each one of us is having some personal experiences in spirituality similar to what you had experienced regarding the so called heaven and hell. In fact those are all purely based on personal understanding of the spirituality and religious environment in our lives. But they can…

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Incorrect Mike.

I have posted arguments from my own words that disprove the flat earth and prove the globe. Posting videos from others will never negate that.I do both.

And those videos clearly debunk the flat earth. If you cared about the truth, then you would at least disprove the claims made in these videos. But you are obviously happy to…[Read more]

Hey Mike. Saying that the days can vary in length means that it could be shorter or longer. today was longer apparently. Oh, you point out that you did your homework. So what? Your point doesn’t prove the flat earth or debunk the globe earth. Whereas, my points debunk the flat earth and prove the globe. Further, a day to God is not like a day for…[Read more]

It’s a combination of visual acuity, air conditions, and perspective.  For example, looking down straight railroad tracks, the two different rails don’t really merge together in the distance – but perspective makes it appear as if they do.  Perspective works the same way up and down as it does right to left with the railroad tracks.

Any artist…

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Really? Static noises coming into large audio antennae? And what “evidence” that it’s expanding? Redshift? Did you know that if we can detect “redshift” at all, there are at least FOUR different reasons for it… and only ONE of those reasons is that the object is moving AWAY from us. So the entire “expanding universe” idea is based on accepting on…

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You pay attention.  The question was if there was any reason to suspect that the days were LONGER THAN 24 hours during the creation period.  And no scientist says that days have ever been LONGER THAN 24 hours on earth.

Okay, so you cannot extrapolate a conclusion from what was said. I will spell it out. If the hours of a day have changed in the…[Read more]

Close. Here’s a diagram…

Lol. It is the same. Just different wording.

Well let’s see… I asked if there was any reason for you to suspect that the daily earth-sun cycles were longer than 24 hours during the creation period. You refused to answer that ONE question, and so I answered it for you.

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In my opinion, Proclaimer has dishonored the spirit and intent of the first Bible vs Scientism Hot Seat thread by allowing other posters, inserting off-topic issues, and turning it into a regular thread like the one we were already on when he refused to directly answer my questions in the first place – the very reason I started the Hot Seat t…

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Here is a photo that shows a volcano called Mount Taranaki that is partly obscured by the curve of the earth. One of these photos was taken by an ex-work colleague of mine. I am pretty certain he is not a shape shifter or elite who is trying to hide the globe from us.He is an ordinary bloke and he believes in God.
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Okay, I have the next 6 questions. Thank you. Although you can respond to my answers. But no questions please.

PROCLAIMER, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE FROM THE SCRIPTURAL WORDS ABOVE THAT, BEFORE THE APPEARANCE OF THE SUN, GOD CREATED LIGHT AND SEPARATED IT FROM THE DARKNESS?

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT HE CALLED THE LIGHT “DAY”, AND THE DARKNESS “NIGHT”?

AND ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT HE CALLED THE VERY FIRST DAY-NIGHT CYCLE, WHICH INCLUDED A SINGLE MORNING AND A S…

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Here is a good video about science and how we came to understand the speed of light or the fastest speed anything physical can travel.

The thing is, if you test something multiple ways and it always comes out as true, then that goes a long way to prove a truth about the physical universe. If under some conditions the answer is different, then…[Read more]

Very easy “Yes or No” questions that were ignored by Proclaimer (as usual)…

PROCLAIMER, DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BIG BANG, DEEP TIME UNIFORMITARIANISM, AND COMMON DESCENT EVOLUTION ARE NOT EVEN A PART OF SCIENCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?
DO YOU FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT SCIENCE IS THE COLLECTION OF DATA – WHICH M…

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AND FINALLY, HAVE YOU NOW COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT BY REJECTING A BLIND, UNQUESTIONING, FAITH-BASED BELIEF IN THE INTERPRETATIONS OF FLAWED MEN, I DON’T DENY SCIENCE ITSELF, BUT RATHER THE RELIGION OF SCIENTISM?

I disagree with your statement. You most certainly deny science. Even the most predictable and repeatable of observations are denied by you.

DO YOU FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT SCIENCE IS THE COLLECTION OF DATA – WHICH MAKES NO CONCLUSIONS – WHILE SCIENTISM IS A FAITH-BASED BELIEF IN THE INTERPRETATIONS OF THOSE DATA BY FLAWED HUMAN BEINGS

I do not agree with your definition. Science is the application and process of gaining knowledge, particular natural knowledge. Scientism is bel…[Read more]

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?

Then God is unscientific. But he is observable through the things he has made. So I cannot see him, but I know he is there. This type of observation is how we arrive at the Big Bang. It doesn’t mean it is correct, but that there is a lot of evidence pointing to this hypothesis.

Science means knowledge. But it is more accurately defined as the pursuit and application of knowledge. Science is not the truth itself, but often it discovers or arrives at the truth through investigation, testing, and successful predictions. I would also argue that knowledge can be gained by revelation. But at that point, it is yet to be proven.…[Read more]

Yes, there is more to this conflict that meets the eye. But we are brainwashed to see the Russians and the baddies.

And I actually don’t mind Trump anymore lol, because I have many Trump supporter friends online

The political elite painted Trump as a sexist, racist, white pig. In reality, he is an astute business man who loves America, the common people, and he is pretty generous. He has more in common with the taxi driver taking him home than political e…[Read more]

PROCLAIMER, DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BIG BANG, DEEP TIME UNIFORMITARIANISM, AND COMMON DESCENT EVOLUTION ARE NOT EVEN A PART OF SCIENCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?

No.

I understand your definition, but it is incorrect.