Of course you are entitled to your opinion and you are sovereign over your own choices. the messiah is there for us to choose or reject. You have chosen.

Your posts are all the same gadam. You are so predictable.

Old Testament good, New Testament bad. Because Jesus is not the Christ. Lol.

And i can see why you want to discredit the New Testament.

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

I disagree. I think the dead know they are dead.

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God does not say that He restored a destroyed earth which needed restoration but that He created from scratch the earth which did not exist before. What you are suggesting is totally wrong. It is our present earth that needs to be purified by fire and recreated, and we know that God is going to do this especially by Peter, John and Isaiah 2Peter…

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Gene has no biblical source to say such things. As far as I’m concerned, I don’t care about science until it goes along with THE WORD OF GOD.

What I think you are really saying.

As far as I’m concerned, I don’t care about science until it goes along with my interpretation which is the stance that the SDA takes regarding this passage in THE WOR…[Read more]

Look at the creation event as seen from the surface of earth. Coinedently or not, you have everything on scientific order.

If you look at it from outside the universe which is what many do, it doesn’t align with science.

I favor the first option myself.

1 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and consecrated it.

The word sea gives it away however. Because it mentions that, it is simply talking about land, sea, and sky. It is from the point of view of where we dwell. Not from outs…[Read more]

Proclaimer: See how the first day ends when all that has already taken place?

Mike: I already addressed your misunderstanding in this very thread about an hour ago. I also addressed it in the private thread. Quote how I addressed it, and THEN make an argument. It’s not a “discussion” if you just keep posting the same drivel as if other peopl…

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Berean, there is not enough in the text to state what you said as a fact. And I think gene is saying that the text can support his view. Let’s not get all dogmatic about it. Just look at the possibilities that the scriptures allow and do not let personal bias toward a doctrine get in the way.

God created the heavens and earth and the earth was…[Read more]

If you are going to copy things from the private thread and bring them here to discuss, great!  I want everyone to see you get exposed.  In fact, there wouldn’t even be a private thread if you would have just responded to my posts in a manner befitting a respectable adult discussion among peers.

Keep pushing the narrative Mike. In reality, you are…[Read more]

We actually do know.  It was WITHIN the six days of creation – which occurred about 6000 years ago.

Who is we? The Flat Earth community?

Gene, Mike has fallen into the trap of fighting for a narrative despite the evidence. This sort of behaviour forces people to ignore good arguments and evidence. In effect, they make themselves blind because their ability to reason is impaired.

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…

Some today believe and teach that the entire universe was created in six 24 hour periods because yō·wm has been translated as ‘day’ in English.

While I am not saying this is an incorrect translation, what I am saying is that yō·wm / has two meanings as I will demonstrate and the rule applies for English. The meanings are:

1. 24 hours (So…

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PROCLAIMER, DO YOU AGREE WITH GOD HIMSELF IN THE SCRIPTURES ABOVE THAT THE VERY CREATION OF THE HEAVEN AND EARTH IS INCLUDED IN THE SIX DAYS OF CREATION, AND NOT EXCLUDED FROM THOSE SIX DAYS AS YOU’VE PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED?

I agree that it says “in six days the LORD made heaven and earth” in multiple places in the bible.

But I am not sure if thi…[Read more]

For example, God didn’t make heaven until the second day.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and…[Read more]

Okay, so your answer is that God made all the plants and after that, they bore fruit and produced seeds all within in a 24 hour period, despite the text making no such claim. Thank you for being honest. Clearly, you forced yourself into this to support your narrative. People can now see how unscientific you are and how unscriptural you are being…[Read more]

Okay, so your answer is that God made all the plants and they then bore fruit and produced seeds in a 24 hour period. Thank you for being honest. People can now see how unscientific you are. I have another question, but I see a lot of noise in your posts above. Was your question in there? If so, can you post it?

You do not understand science. We can see the heavens with telescopes. We image the globe everyday with satellites. We have geologists that can analyse rocks. This is science. What you are doing is the opposite. And science questions itself. Whereas, you have dodgy dogma only. And you ignore the most blatant evidence which we will be going through…[Read more]

Gen 1:1 were INCLUDED in the six days of creation, not EXCLUDED as you guys claim with zero scriptural support.

At the end of the first day, God had already created the heavens and the earth. And his Spirit was hovering over a watery planet etc.

That concurs with the order I have been saying.

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