My family hasn’t caught Covid yet  except one son. Pretty sure he got it despite getting 2 negatives. He never gets ill and suffered for over a week. His PCR test might have been too early to read positive and RAT tests came available nearbthe endbif his isolation  so might have been too late to read positive.

If it was Covid then miraculously, w…[Read more]

The Flat Earth conspiracy theory debunks itself

Question
Genesis chapter one and other places in scripture says God made earth and heaven in six separate days. we have already established that there was the day of the plants, the day of the heavenly objects in the vault, the day of animals, and the day of man. And you have admitted that ‘the day’ can be any length of time required. So I think…[Read more]

Now do you finally see it?  Peter wasn’t saying the same thing two times, Proclaimer.  He was saying that a thousand years of OUR TIME could seem like only a single day went by for God, AND ALSO that a literal 24-hour day of OUR TIME could seem like it took a thousand years to pass for God.

I never stated that they were the same. Read what I said…[Read more]

It does match with two visions I had many years ago. The main points of the two dreams were NZ,  China, 2020, and water.

Invasion of New Zealand

Okay, this totally fits with my second dream. That said, I am not endorsing this video. It is food for thought at this stage.

I’m part way through this video. So I am not endorsing it. I post it for evaluation purposes. The title of the video is interesting to me as it describes a vision I had which is related to 2020 and beyond.

PROCLAIMER:  ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, GOD MADE THE SUN, MOON AND STARS AND PLACED THEM IN HEAVEN ON THE FOURTH DAY OF CREATION.
KNOWING NOW THAT THE EARLIEST EXISTENCE OF HEAVEN DOESN’T PRESUPPOSE THE SIMULTANEOUS EXISTENCE OF THE SUN, MOON, STARS OR ANY OTHER THING CURRENTLY IN IT ANY MORE THAN THE EARLIEST EXISTENCE OF EARTH PRESUPPOSES…

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Proclaimer:  We both agree that day is not always 24 hours just like the Hebrew dictionaries state.

This applies to the days of creation. And a day to the LORD is not a day like ours. And man and the sun were not created according to you, so the creation days are not 24 hours.

This is settled right?

Your “Get Out of Jail Free” card has already been addressed numerous times, including a thorough debunking in post 930774 on the first page of this very thread.  Unfortunately, you aren’t treating this as an actual discussion where each person freely and readily responds to the challenges of the other person, and so, as is the case with a dozen…

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To recap

Both Proclaimer and Mike agree that the Hebrew word for ‘day’ can be any length of time required for a thing that is started to finish. By that definition which we both agree to, the days of creation are not 24 hours long unless the context requires it. And it certainly does not for these main reasons.

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So another non-sequitur, huh? 🙄

Proclaimer, was “the flood of Noah’s day” a single 24-hour day, or 150 24-hour days? You can’t have it both ways, Mr. Double-Minded! 😅

Hmm… Maybe “the flood of Noah’s day” refers to a general time period that was comprised of 150 literal 24-hour days! 😎

Sometimes I seriously wonder about your intelligence le…

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So no, there is no contradiction.  We can talk about “back in the day when God created the heaven and earth”, but we can also talk about the exact day within that general time period that God created the sun, for example.</small

By jove I think he’s got it.

Now add in the fact that to God a day is a much longer period, and you have 6 days of c…[Read more]

No.  It would be correct to say, “in THE day when God created the heaven and the earth”, or, “in THAT day God will create a new heaven and a new earth” – but no, I don’t know of any Biblical reference where day is used as a general period of time using the indefinite article “a”.

Fantastic Mike. So you have just admitted that there exists the…[Read more]

So first you admitted that since the days in the creation account include a morning and an evening, are accompanied by a number, and are directly EQUATED to six literal 24-hour days by God Himself in Ex 20:11 and 31:17, they are more likely than not to be literal 24 hour days.  You ADMITTED THE TRUTH for a brief second!

Incorrect again Mike.

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Natural immunity was ignored
Djokovic for example was as immune as a vaccinated person.

I guess there is no money in natural immunity.

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