What about these guys T?9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. ……And he said, “These are they who have come out of the g…[Read more]

Revelation 71 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had…[Read more]

I am guessing that this is a debate so moved it here. Group Discussions is for like-minded people who want a conversation among themselves.

This seems to be a debate so moved it here. Group Discussions is for like-minded people who want a conversation among themselves.

I think this is likely a debate so moved it there. Group Discussions is for like-minded people who want a conversation among themselves. Correct me if I am wrong though.

@ 2besee The Vatican is both a religion and a city/state.And it is possible that it owns more than you can imagine.Try this for starters. I haven't read it myself yet.http://guardianlv.com/2013….ortgage

Quote (carmel @ May 10 2013,06:10)THAT'S YOUR POOR MENTALITY!SINCE JESUS BECAME LIKE US, MAN ON EARTH,WE COULD BECOME LIKE HIM WHILE ON EARTH!GOD IN FLESH!THE REASON THAT HE DIED FOR!We differ only in part.You are right that Jesus became like us so we could become like him. Now ask yourself, was he truly a man or only part man? If he was a man,…[Read more]

Here is a must answered question. Read this section of Corinthians and then answer the following:So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “l…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2013,19:17)t8, I have a new question for you. You believe that Jesus is not The God but he is another god. True or false?A new question?I can give you the same old tried and true answer that works for most of your rehashed questions.The Theos by default is the Father. Others are also called theos and as you say, even…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2013,04:05)t8,There are many devils but one in leadership of them from what I understand. Each one of the many devils can take the article 'the' in a particular context. 1 Cor 8 tells us there are many gods and many lords, but for us there is one God and one Lord.You don't even believe your own words here.Yes there are…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2013,03:55)John is teaching that the Word of God that the Jews knew as calling Himself Jehovah in the Tanakh and who was with Jehovah, became flesh and the promised Messiah.The 'Word of God' was a very familiar title of the Jehovah who spoke to Abraham, Moses and the prophets. You can easily see this in the OT and the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2013,03:45)I am wondering why you took out half of the sentence when you quoted me in your last post, first line?When I am addressing a sentence or few, I quote that.It makes it easier to understand. I dislike quoting whole posts like many do here. I usually ignore topics that do that repetitively because they are hard…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 09 2013,09:43)WHICH ASSERTS THAT THE FATHER IS IN JESUS, THE FATHER IN THE FLESH BODY OF JESUS, THEREFORE JESUS IS GOD IN FLESH:Have you not read that Jesus can be in us and God can be in us? If God was in Christ, besides the obvious meaning, it also means that he is not Christ. Likewise if Christ is in us we are not…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 09 2013,09:43)THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURES THERE ARE MORE THEN ENOUGH EVIDENCE WHICH SIGNIFIES A TRIUNE GOD,AS MUCH AS ONE GOD!All those scriptures you rely on for your Trinity can easily be refuted. Too much to say here, but try this page.https://heavennet.net/writings/supporting-the-trinity-doctrine/After that, if you still hold onto…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 08 2013,05:49)READ AGAIN:GLORIFY YOUR SON, THAT YOUR SON MAY GLORIFY YOU!SO THE WORD RETURN DOES NOT EXIST!If you don't like the word 'return', then we don't have to use it.What you quote is sufficient.GLORIFY YOUR SON, THAT YOUR SON MAY GLORIFY YOU!So one glorifies the other that the other glorifies you.That is the keyword…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2013,15:23)So when Jesus asked God to let the cup pass from him, it was really the Father asking HIMSELF?Or maybe that Jesus had no free will according to Gene, therefore, it was God saying “take this cup from me, but not my will but yours”, just so Jesus would realise how powerful God is.I doubt Gene has even thought…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 07 2013,01:16)Marty………..You have posted it right brother. Jesus is in Complete obedience to God the Father and calls us to come along beside him in obedience also to the Father , He gave us the Father words not “HIS” Words. If we obey Jesus we are obeying the Father. IMOpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 06 2013,20:17)GLORIFY YOU SON, THAT YOUR SON MAY GLORIFY YOU! WHO IS GLORIFYING WHO?THE FATHER THE SONOR BOTH?According to the order you suggest here, the Father glorifies the son and then the son returns the glory.Likewise God loves us first and surely we are to love God in return.

Quote (Ed J @ May 06 2013,17:05)Hi T8, You're forgetting that it was I who suggested that you to start the thread:”Have you learned something new., Have you changed your mind?” (as a place to document what “we” (not just me) learned at H-net)And how it was my suggestion for you to start the category “The Hot Seat” (as a place to document those…[Read more]