Quote (princess @ June 01 2013,15:14)Somewhere along the line thoughts of evil came about, now the only evil that is portrayed in your bible is the devil, even so that would mean that even in heaven there are thoughts of darkness. How could that be?Angels had the power to choose too.And Satan sinned in Heaven resulting in being cast down.How can…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 02 2013,08:26)Hi T8,(Quote)Further does God marry?Yet he produces many sons.That is a excellent question!Jer.3:14   Turn, O backsliding children, says the LORD; for I am   married   unto you: and I will take you one from a city, and two from a family, and I will bring you to Zion:Yes thanks Abe.God does marry. Funny thing is th…[Read more]

Yeah. I'm with Jesus and yourself on that one.

That would be pretty obvious Mike. But never underestimate human imagination to invent a so-called plausible explanation against this to keep a doctrine or teaching alive.

Quote (carmel @ June 03 2013,11:03)SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE TRINITY?It's not in the Bible or even the books that didn't make it into the Bible.

Quote (carmel @ June 02 2013,05:00)t8,SO IF GOD EXISTED ETERNALLY, HIS WORD EXISTED ALSO ETERNALLY!DO YOU AGREE!Peace and love in JesusCharles@ CharlesHis word was part of him. An attribute. Likewise, so is wisdom, truth, and love.But at some point the Word was WITH God.It also says wisdom being part of God was BEGOTTEN and was WITH God as the…[Read more]

Pre-Trib sermon.

@ 4ThomasAll you prove with your post above is that when the invisible God talks to someone face to face, he does so using a messenger. People think that Moses saw God in the burning bush for example, but it is clear that it was an angel/messenger. Both the Old and New testaments concur on this.If another instance doesn't record that specific…[Read more]

Colter, please stop quoting all the posts in a conversation. It makes the topic hard to read. Imagine if Urantopia was written that way and then know how annoying it is.

I wasn't just a passive Atheist either. I was like Stu. I loved to engage in debates with those who had faith and I even successfully talked one of friends out of believing in God.

I believed in God when I was very young even though I was brought up an Atheist. I lost that faith by the time I went to school and regained it in my 20s. Since that time, I have tasted of the Kingdom to come and nothing in this world compares to the Kingdom of God.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,20:16)It is entirely possible that John wrote in Aramaic first and then handed it to a scribe to write in Greek.Then again not.Greek was a widespread language by that time.Origen (184/185 – 253/254) seemed to be under the impression that John wrote in Greek.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sente…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,20:05)Are your children the same type of being as you?Yes they have super powers too.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,20:05)The Heavenly Father beget His eternal Son who is the same type of being.When exactly did that happen?

Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,08:22)T8,The book of Hebrews calls the members of the host of heaven, with the exception of God,  the Messenger kind.  It makes clear Jesus is not one of them.   As far as I know Malachi 3:1-2 is not speaking of any member of the host of heaven; except for God; whom it mentions at a few points.Tell me the following if…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2013,14:25)I also find it hard to believe that Jesus was just “hiding in the shadows” during the OT times. I can't say I KNOW that he was the angel of Jehovah who went before the Israelites in the wilderness, but I don't think Hebrews 1 completely rules it out either.Luke 13:34Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2013,15:21)Quote (kerwin @ May 29 2013,16:51)T,You claim angels do marry and are given in marriage while Jesus infers they neither marry or are given in marriage.What Pierre and the scriptures teach is that angels took human woman for themselves and produced children with them.That does NOT contradict Jesus' words that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2013,09:19)Mike,you said:Quote I've never claimed anything different than that, Kathi.  The Most High God created all things through His Holy Servant Jesus Christ, who is also a god (“mighty one”).But only ONE is the Most High God.  And only ONE created all things.Did you have a son through your son's mother?If yes, do y…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2013,14:44)This is why I always fight against t8 “banishing” people like you to certain sections of this forum. If not for people like you, who view things differently than I do, then I would not be challenged to even look into these kinds of things. So, despite the fact that you and I rarely agree on scripturalThe…[Read more]

@ carmelThe fact that Jesus came from God changes nothing about God being an eternal spirit.Your rebuttal makes no sense.