Gidday palal.Welcome.I will copy and paste my page on this subject in the next post. Feel free to critique and I will critique any scripture you offer too.

2b, look at how Origen interprets John 1:1.Origen wrote in the early 200′s A.D.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but…[Read more]

Cheers Mike.

Do you agree that Jesus said, “ye are gods”?And did he quote “ye are gods, ye are all sons of the Most High God”?If I believe that and you do to, then how is it that you say I am Arian and you are not?Explain because I am confused.

Quote (2besee @ June 07 2013,12:40)I believe that the son pre-existed as the “eternal spirit” of God, but it is not another God, It is a part of God, the Holy Spirit, which was in the sinless “son of man”.I still have plenty to learn. Mike and terraricca seem to HATE this belief..I wonder why.I don't believe that either.Jesus is not another God.…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 07 2013,12:40)Hi T8,That was good, and I honestly did give it a lot if thought. But yeah/nah.It is simply arianism/Jehovah witness-ism – the need to insist that other gods do exist which are real, and powerful, and supernatural, so that Jesus can pre-exist as some kind of 'other god', or an angel.Call it what you like, but it…[Read more]

And here is a series of dreams I received that seem to line up with the content in the video.https://heavennet.net/visions/military-action-against-christians/

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,19:46)You have received me, you're just stiff-necked in accepting the truth.Wrong! I reject your message and I reject your belief that you are spoken of in scripture. Further you bring the Kingdom into disrepute when you give this obvious false evidence as evidence of God's existence to Atheists. You just give them an…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,19:43)Quote (t8 @ June 06 2013,15:58)Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,02:03)“whosoever shall not receive you(Ed J), nor hear your words(Ed J), when ye depart out of THAT HOUSE      or city, shake off the dust of your feet.If you really believe that, then let's see you shake off the dust of your feet and depart this house. Be…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,19:32)Hi T8, Surely you missed the point that I was making in this quote of mine.My point was: you were attacking what you perceived as a weakness. (Gematria) Your attempting to discredit it showed weakness on your part.This was seen by the others by your negative campaigning against me in virtually every thread that I…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 07 2013,01:53)Okay T8, so what do you do with the verses which i quoted one page back? I can find plenty more like those. You have not commented on them.The point is, to accept your view, we now have a contradiction. There are no other gods, and yet clearly others are legitimately called gods.Without looking at the verses, I…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 07 2013,01:42)Quote I created a new acronym. ISM. It stands for all the isms out there that try to explain God. Trinitarianism, Binitarianism, Quadratarianism, etc.Don't forget to add “Henotheism” to the list, if you know what that is BTW if I sounded angry at all in my last post i was frustrated at my phone. It doesn't do…[Read more]

YLT and NIV (I think) renders it with your view, but nearly every other translation renders it they way I mention. e.g., King James VersionAnd there was trembling in the host, in the field, and among all the people: the garrison, and the spoilers, they also trembled, and the earth quaked: so it was a very great trembling.American Standard…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2012,16:14)I believe that the Bible is authentic and follow the teachings of both the Quran and the Bible. The difference is I study context and progression which allows me to see a clearer and larger picture.For example, when the Bible says that Jesus is the son of God, the Quran says he is not.That is a type of…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 06 2013,18:29)Hi T8.That is an interesting verse. This if my understanding of it:They were called gods, but as mortal men they will die, because in reality, that's all they were. So that is understandable with the verses which say that all “so called gods” will die/perish.I think the following explains it quite well.Gill's,I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,02:03)“whosoever shall not receive you(Ed J), nor hear your words(Ed J), when ye depart out of THAT HOUSE      or city, shake off the dust of your feet.If you really believe that, then let's see you shake off the dust of your feet and depart this house. Because surely as I am typing this, I do not receive you because yo…[Read more]

You know Ed J. Truly I have respect for great mathematicians because of their logical ability and memory. I am in awe of their minds.For example Sir Isaac Newtown, Archimedes, Gauss, and even New Zealand's own Alexander Aitken, I admire greatly. My favourite is of course Newton because he also had staunch faith in God.The latter (Alexander Aitken)…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,02:03)Yes, chasing me all over the forum posting irrelevant Gematria combinationsdoes much more to influence your credibility (in the eye's of others) than diminish mine!Oh you really are deluded. I post rebuttals to a number of people here and I post encouragement to others.You are on my rebuttal list. Again this shows…[Read more]