It does. The Comma Johanneum being the most glaring example.The AKJV wasn't translated from the oldest and more relaible texts. The AKJV was also translated before the discovery of the Dea Sea Scrolls.While no translation is perfect, people who believe that the AKJV is, are clearly wrong. IMO, it is the least accurate, but still accurate enough to…[Read more]

Eternal life means to always live.Eternal death means to always be dead, (not live).Eternal destruction means to always be destroyed.Why does eternal destruction have to mean not destroyed forever. Isn't that what you are saying palal?Eternal destruction is eternal punishment because it is permanent, not because it is ongoing and never arriving to…[Read more]

Genesis 19:24Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah–from the LORD out of the heavens.Luke 17:29But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.Jude 7:In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve…[Read more]

I made this reply to a comment on the . Thought I would also quote it here for its relevance.https://heavennet.net/writings/is-hell-eternal/We know the truth shall set us free and yet we are somehow conditioned to be scared to question what most take for granted. But I believe that it was that fear that lead to the domination of RCC doctrines and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,16:03)All of your examples DO have the indefinite article “a”.  I'm asking for an example of someone being “qualitatively something” where we CANNOT, in English, use the indefinite article “a”.Okay, I misunderstood your question then.You want me to take a sentence and work it without using the indefinite article.…[Read more]

No problem 2b.No one had posted so you can change it and if it is just grammatical, then you can change it even after a post. So long as we are honest and not trying to cover our tracks when we make a mistake. Better to front up and say a mistake was made.

bob is a devil.You are a rock.You are an angel. You said it yourself, you are not a spirit being.But you can use this if you know the rules and how it is applied. Unfortunately most do not know this when it comes to theos.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,15:27)Let me know if you ever find an instance where one is qualitatively something but can NOT be called “a something” in English.Eve is a adam.Eve is a man.

In English we say mankind for the word adam. So that was one way to get around saying “Eve belongs to adam”. “Eve belongs to mankind”. Notice how both those sentences are the same, but mean different things? This is why John 1:1c is so confusing. If you are unfamiliar with the rules, you can read it in the wrong way.So if we can use the word…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,15:17)Okay, but let's forget about “divine”, since the word “theos” in John 1:1c is a noun, not an adjective.But nouns are used as adjectives and maybe vice versa too.That happens. Descriptives can be achieved by removing the definite article in Greek. “Eve was adam.”

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,04:51)Can you give me an example of someone being qualitatively something, but we are not allowed to say that person is “a something”?That is a good question.But here is the dilemma.If Greek to English translates verses like, “there is no God but one” and Greek to English also uses the noun theos/elohim/god also in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,04:51)Nobody would say, t8 is angel. Instead, they would say, t8 is AN angel. (BTW, I believe you ARE an angel.Or you could say, “Mike is angelic”. That is what some translators did when they said, “The Word was divine”, or “What God was the Word was”. Yes in English you can also say, Mike is an angel. But a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,04:51)Qualitatively, on the other hand, refers to you having the qualities that an angel has. IMO, you would have to be a powerful spirit being who dwells in the heavenly realms to qualitatively be an angel.Depends on what quality you are highlighting. When most people say, “you are an angel”, they say it because…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,04:51)I think you are confusing “qualitatively” with “metaphorically”. You can metaphorically be called an angel because you did something good, and angels of God are generally considered to be good.If you call someone as a thing because they are displaying the qualities of that thing, how is that not qualitative.…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2013,03:52)Hi T8, Yes, and that is precisely WHAT YOU ARE DOING when you say men are called Angels – CERTAINLY NOT IN ENGLISH THEIR NOT!EL-o-heem (and “Theos” is similar) translates into English as each of the following:  1. GOD2. Angels3. Leaders. 4. MagistratesSo I completely agree with: Taking a Greek concept and putting…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2013,03:39)2) Since you say that Mike's difference in doctrine nothing to divide over, why attempt to divide over other doctrinal differences? Where do you draw the line?The bible says clearly there are no other “Gods” (Isa 44:8), to believe otherwise is to believe 'a lie'.3) Do you believe that it OK to let others believe a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,14:39)Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2013,14:25)Angels are NOT gods……….Yet your beloved AKJV (not to mention the Hebrew text) says they are.  Hmmmm………..Oh the KJV is perfect except that.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,06:30)And you walking away from the discussion is not what bothers me. What I fear is that, just like Ed always does, you'll walk away from the scriptural information I painstakingly laid out for you yesterday – only to start making the same exact claims in a month from now that I solidly and scripturally refuted…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2013,03:39)Hi T8,1) Is your hope in Christ  **or**  in the doctrine you believe?    (<– please answer)In Christ. I trust he leads me to God. Christ was the perfect model of obedience and as his disciples, we should follow his example as well as his commands. Motivation for this obedience is love, thus if we love God, we lov…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 09 2013,18:47)T8,I know that it takes Mike a long time to do his posts and I did read them all, but every discussion between two or three people on one particular topic needs to eventually come to an end. On the other matter, discussions should always be respectful.But a good end is when one or both persons say, I don't know,…[Read more]