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And this video defends the Vatican, but says a Vatican 2 will arise and that is the false Church. While no one here will subscribe to that, but he does make a good case with the Babylonian symbols and the Vatican itself.

This video makes the case that the Vatican is Mystery Babylon.

This video makes the case that the USA is Mystery Babylon.The following video is on the first page of this topic. It also makes the case that the USA is Mystery Babylon.

I will take a look. Cheers.

Another video along the same lines as the last. With Mecca as the city that is destroyed in one day.

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2013,12:59)If you don't believe #2 why were you arguing for its authenticity and subsequently tiled me for challenging your understanding of a Qualitative application?There is no truth in these words of your Edj.

Oh sorry, it was Mike that did the work. Cheers.

Thanks for your work Terr, it is good to have this in one place for easy analysis. Before I read, I want to stress my point again so that you are not under the impression that I am against you or disagree strongly with you. I am merely testing out your view and want to know why exactly you believe this view. And my view is that even if we differ…[Read more]

I am not supporting this view, but this video says that Islam is the woman, Mystery Babylon and gives its reasons. I remain open as to the identity of Babylon aS there are well argued views for Rome, New York, Mecca, etc.

The problem you have Jack is to reconcile these words, “ye are gods/theos”.Jesus quoted an OT scripture which says, “ye are elohim, ye are all sons of the Most High God”.So if these sons are elohim, and Jesus is the son of God, then it is a no brainer that Jesus is elohim and mighty. And if the Father is elohim and mighty too, then I do not…[Read more]

@ DavidL
We understand why you believe the Trinity, but it is obscure and contradicts half the New Testament. Any hypothesis you come up with has to embrace all scripture, not just a few.

We know that God created all things through his Word and the Word was with him, and the Word is Jesus who is the image of God. Thus do you think it possible…[Read more]

If the world was the Harlot, then how come the whole world is made drunk on the wine of this harlot? Your interpretation means the world is drunk on the world. What is the point of saying that?

Wow, I have no memory of ever starting this topic. Hence why there is another similar one.

Even this Catholic believes the Whore is the Roman Catholic Church. However, he still believes that the RCC is the one true Church, but that a false Vatican 2.0 is what the Apocalypse is talking about. He can't admit that it is the Vatican even though he shows clear symbols in the Apocalypse with the RCC.

Even this Catholic believes the Whore is the Roman Catholic Church. However, he still believes that the RCC is the one true Church, but that a false Vatican 2.0 is what the Apocalypse is talking about. He can't admit that it is the Vatican even though he shows clear symbols in the Apocalypse with the RCC.

If Jesus was literally the first born of/over all creation, then he would have always been superior, except to God of course.If he is the first work of God as some of the second century father's contend, then yes he would have always been superior. Of course we know he humbled himself, and partook of flesh and became for a time, a little lower…[Read more]