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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    I agree, however I thought you use to teach that we die and at the resurrection we become alive again, but not before. I use to debate members here that when we die we are present with the lord and very much alive. But everyone else (and I thought you) taught that this was not the case, rather that we die until the resurrection.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    So while we are living here and now and with the Holy Spirit, we have two spirits, the one that gave our soul life originally and the other which gives eternal life. When we die, the original spirit is given back to God effectively making the soul die, but the Holy Spirit keeps the soul of the Believer alive and forever more.

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    Some prophecies are warnings for things to come and they will become evident at the right time. Jumping the gun on them is precisely why there are so many theories. God will make it clear to those who are awake. I don’t see that the economic system is guilty of the martyrs. I await to see what God will reveal in his time. I don’t see the economic…[Read more]

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    What about this Kerwin.

     

    First off, one must understand the nomina sacra (sacred names). These are abbreviations, in early manuscripts, of certain names and titles.

    In ancient manuscripts 1 Timothy 3:16 had the word “os” which looks like: “OC” and means “he”.

    The nomina sacra of God looks like OC but instead it has a horizontal line throug…

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    Well given the amount of conflicting teachings on End Times, then most would have to be wrong. It is not a matter of what I doubt, but what I can accept as certain because scripture makes it plain enough. However, sometimes things have to happen before it becomes plain. In saying that, I am aware of the main theories of how the End Times will play…[Read more]

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    Well given the amount of conflicting teachings on End Times, then most would have to be wrong. It is not a matter of what I doubt, but what I can accept as certain because scripture makes it plain enough. However, sometimes things have to happen before it becomes plain. In saying that, I am aware of the main theories of how the End Times will play…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    I think he has his own spirit which of course originates with God who is the Father of all spirits.
    The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God himself.
    And we have fellowship with God and his son via our spirit.

    But if we do not have fellowship with God and his son and are effectively cut off from God, then our spirit gives us life as it animates our…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    I think he has his own spirit which of course originates with God who is the Father of all spirits.
    The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God himself.
    And we have fellowship with God and his son via our spirit.

    But if we do not have fellowship with God and his son and are effectively cut off from God, then our spirit gives us life as it animates our…[Read more]

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    If you mean a new topic, then go to a forum. Make sure you are logged in. The form to fill out is at the bottom of the page just like when you make a post.

    You can also use the toolbar above. See the +New link in the toolbar. Try that option if that is easier. But you have to locate the forum, whereas if you are already in the forum, you just…[Read more]

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    If you mean a new topic, then go to a forum. Make sure you are logged in. The form to fill out is at the bottom of the page just like when you make a post.

    You can also use the toolbar above. See the +New link in the toolbar. Try that option if that is easier. But you have to locate the forum, whereas if you are already in the forum, you just…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, that is too much of a stretch for me to accept. The verse is specific and I don’t believe it fits in your theory. Just being honest. This is why I am open minded. I am not going to choose a view until that view fits the evidence. Even then, I will be open minded as things change very fast. e.g., if we lived in the time of Adolph Hitler, it…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, that is too much of a stretch for me to accept. The verse is specific. I don’t believe it fits your theory. Jsut being honest. This is why I am open minded. I am not going to choose a view until that view fits the evidence. Even then, I will be open minded as things change very fast. e.g., if we lived in the time of Adolph Hitler, it might…[Read more]

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    Hi Camilla. Just a heads up. There are two modes, Visual and Text. If you copy code, then that should be pasted in text mode for it to render as code. In Visual mode the code will be preserved as text.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    So if we die, then you believe that our spirit dies forever and the Holy Spirit also departs the soul at death, but will re-enter in the resurrection?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    Agreed. So you are then teaching that our spirit that we have now will depart and we will have only the Holy Spirit. So two spirits to one. Is that it?

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    Regarding these scriptures on Israel, in what context are they related to this topic? I haven’t grasped the significance of quoting them here.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 12 years ago

    Kathi I am not going to bother with a concise list. I believe I have compiled such a list many times before. You can find it in my writings and posts.

    In fact I point you to this page which I wrote:

    The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 12 years ago

    Kathi I am not going to bother with a concise list. I believe I have compiled such a list many times before. You can find it in my writings and posts.

    In fact I will point you to this page which I wrote:

    The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 12 years ago

    Always busy Kathi, but your debate here is not high priority. I will continue to debate, when other more important things are done. Priority is not high because it seems unlikely that I am going to learn anything here except to learn a lesson as to how and why people create false doctrines about God or idols. You are not interested in the truth,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 12 years ago

    Always busy Kathi, but your debate here is not high priority. I will continue to debate, when when other more important things are done. Priority is not high because it seems unlikely that I am going to learn anything here and you are not interested in the truth, rather just being right. But this is why you are wrong because the Spirit of Truth…[Read more]

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