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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    Yes it is the answer. It is clear. Further, I framed it in a context that is important. That all spirit comes originally from God.

    So my view is that unity in spirit means that our spirits are connected with the Holy Spirit which in turn connects us with all who have the Holy Spirit.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    Yes it is the answer. It is clear. Further, I framed it in a context that is important. That all spirit comes originally from God.

    So my view is that unity in spirit means that our spirits are connected with the Holy Spirit.

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    Yes Wakeup. Wisdom gives us right discernment and application of knowledge.
    Knowledge can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

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    EdJ, if the US killed the King of Babylon, then what does that make the US in your opinion.

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    Yes Wakeup. Wisdom gives us right discernment and application of knowledge.
    Knowledge can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    @NickHassan

    So the spirit of an unbelievers/unsaved goes back to God. Then in the resurrection, it is given back so that they can be conscious to suffer eternally? In essence their souls are alive and suffering for all eternity and God’s spirit makes this possible?

    Forgive me if I have you wrong on this, but I am taking what you have declared…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    Okay EdJ, this post landed on the next page. So back two pages now.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    EdJ

    Last post first line on previous page.
    Also above the part that you did understand regarding God’s spirit being the Holy Spirit.
    The line is as clear as that line that you clearly understood.

    I want you to read it there because it wastes too much time when I have to repeat myself over and over.
    I want to set a precedent and point people to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    I agree with Nick WU. It is more likely that Babylon is religious in nature rather than the world’s economic system.

    When God destroyed the original Babylon it was not because of its economic activity. It was because of their idols which God destroyed. So it would stand to reason that Mystery Babylon would be like the Babylon from whence it…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    @NickHassan

    So the spirit of an unbelievers/unsaved goes back to God. Then in the resurrection, it is given back so that they can be conscious to suffer eternally? In essence their souls are alive and suffering for all eternity and God’s spirit makes this possible?

    Forgive me if I have you wrong on this, but I am taking what you have declared…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    EdJ, if you had enough power of reason to read my very clear posts on the previous page and see that I believe that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God, then you should equally have seen that I answered your question in the same post as clear as day. Further, in a previous post on the same page you will see my view clearly again.

    I don’t have to…[Read more]

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    Is Jesus God? Does Jesus have a spirit or is he a spirit? Then the Father is his God and our God.

    John 20:17
    …..`I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

    Hebrews 12:9
    Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and…[Read more]

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    Is Jesus God? Does Jesus have a spirit or is he a spirit? Then the Father is his God and our God.

    John 20:17
    …..`I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

    Hebrews 12:9
    Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and…[Read more]

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    Is Jesus God? Does Jesus have a spirit or is he a spirit? Then the Father is his God and our God.

    Hebrews 12:9
    Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!

    If Jesus is God and another spirit, then we have two fathers of spirits. If he is…[Read more]

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    Knowledge is good, but there is something even better.

    Proverbs 8:11
    for wisdom is more precious than rubies, and nothing you desire can compare with her.

    Proverbs 16:16
    How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!

    Proverbs 3:13-14
    13 Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gains understanding,
    14 for…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years ago

    I think I am pretty much on the same page as you. Although it does now raise the issue of the dead who are not in Christ.

    If their spirit goes back to God who gave it, and they have not the Spirit of God, then that would make them non-existent or in a state of non-consciousness. What is your view here?

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    If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, and came from a duck…it is another duck, right!?
    Think about it.

    Could also be an image of a duck, made in the likeness of a duck, or the offspring of a duck.

    God is theos in nature but is also the one true Theos.

    Satan is devil in nature and identity. Other are devil in nature but not the Devil h…[Read more]

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    If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, and came from a duck…it is another duck, right!?
    Think about it.

    Could also be an image of a duck, made in the likeness of a duck, or the offspring of a duck.

    God is theos in nature but is also the one true Theos.

    Satan is devil in nature and identity. Other are devil in nature but not the Devil h…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, and came from a duck…it is another duck, right!?
    Think about it.

    Could also be an image of a duck, made in the likeness of a duck, or the offspring of a duck.

    God is theos in nature but is also the one true Theos.

    Satan is devil in nature and identity. Other are devil in nature but not the Devil h…[Read more]

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    The only true God, the Father, has a part of Him that is just like Him as offsprings always are. Hebrew names, from what I understand, reflect some significant character, feature, or purpose from what I have read and the name Jehovah reflects a state of being…an always existent state of being and that sets Him apart from all created beings that m…

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