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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Rome is Rome in italy if it changes it was only politically by one emperor but it saved the real Rome is it not ? yes

    The Bible doesn’t say it is Rome. It just says that the current kingdom IS while the previous have FALLEN. It then says ONE MORE TO COME does it not?

    It was simply the empire whose capital was Rome at the time. History clearly sh…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Rome is Rome in italy if it changes it was only politically by one emperor but it saved the real Rome is it not ? yes

    The Bible doesn’t say it is Rome. It just says that the current kingdom is while the previous have fallen. It then says ONE MORE TO COME.

    If it doesn’t say Rome and it is the empire whose capital is Rome, then if it moved the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    the scriptures do not talk about the eastern or western leg ,so why adding to scriptures ?

    Scripture says the LEGS of iron. History says eastern and western.

    I would have thought that was obvious.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    the scriptures do not talk about the eastern or western leg ,so why adding to scriptures ?

    Scripture says the LEGS of iron. History says eastern and western.

    I would have thought that was obvious.

    Some food for thought here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUfHzmEzZY#t=1673

    NOTE: video should be positioned at the exact place that talks about…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    the scriptures do not talk about the eastern or western leg ,so why adding to scriptures ?

    Scripture says the LEGS of iron. History says eastern and western.

    I would have thought that was obvious.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Rome is Rome in italy if it changes it was only politically by one emperor but it saved the real Rome is it not ? yes

    The Bible doesn’t say it is Rome. It just says that the current kingdom is while the previous have fallen. It then says ONE MORE TO COME.

    If it doesn’t say Rome and it is the empire whose capital is Rome, then if it moved the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Daniel 2;44 says that the rock from the mountain strikes the statue at the feet ;so this is Rome at the time of Christ coming

    that is when the new kingdom was set up ,this is what scriptures says ;

    Most people view the legs and feet as being different just as the torso is different to the legs.

    Further, there are seven kings, but an eighth king…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    t8
    you mixing up the seven head beast with the beast that comes out of the earth ,that lives beside the seven head beast ,

    Watch this small part of the video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUfHzmEzZY#t=2580

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    if you read Roman history you will find that is exactly how the Roman empire died ,all the countries conquered were splitting apart from her and became independent countries again but remain with the culture and the administration so to speak

    Yes your thinking is western. The eastern leg existed for another 1000 or so years and was conquered. This…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    also understand that Rome was never taken over by any other nation as scriptures says ;it just vanished without the actions of men

    That may be true of the city, but that is not true of the empire. The capital of the Roman Empire moved from Rome to Constantinople.

    Constantinople
    It was reinaugurated in 324 AD at ancient Byzantium, as the new…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    also understand that Rome was never taken over by any other nation as scriptures says ;it just vanished without the actions of men

    That may be true of the city, but that is not true of the empire. The capital of the Roman Empire moved from Rome to Constantinople.

    Constantinople
    It was reinaugurated in 324 AD at ancient Byzantium, as the new…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    also understand that Rome was never taken over by any other nation as scriptures says ;it just vanished without the actions of men

    That may be true of the city, but that is not true of the empire. The capital of the Roman Empire moved from Rome to Constantinople.

    Constantinople
    It was reinaugurated in 324 AD at ancient Byzantium, as the new…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    also understand that Rome was never taken over by any other nation as scriptures says ;it just vanished without the actions of men

    That may be true of the city, but that is not true of the empire.

    It was reinaugurated in 324 AD at ancient Byzantium, as the new capital of the Roman Empire by Constantine the Great, after whom it was named, and…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    it looks like the apostasy as to come before the man of lawlessness can appear ;and so he would be the real antichrist

    The area of the seven churches are now predominantly under the control of Islam. If that is not a falling away from the faith, then what is? lol. They even deny that God has a son as one of their main tenets.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Terr, as for the man of lawlessness, I am curious as to how or where you arrive at “offspring of the believers congregation”.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    I think you are right about the mixed people. And yes that could also work for the Roman Empire too.

    Interesting that the word is ‘arab’ though. Could be a huge coincidence. But as I have said before, it makes no sense to me that all the empires were succeeded by the next (in the Beast), except for some reason we should not include the Ottoman.…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    I think you are right about the mixed people. And yes that could also work for the Roman Empire too.

    Interesting that the word is ‘arab’ though. And as I have said before, it makes no sense to me that all the empires were succeeded by the next (in the Beast), except for some reason we should not include the Ottoman. Further that it ruled the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    I think you are right about the mixed people. And yes that could also work for the Roman Empire too.

    Interesting that the word is ‘arab’ though and still as I have said before, it makes no sense to me that all the empires were succeeded by the next, except for some reason we should not include the Ottoman. Further that it ruled the Eastern Roman…[Read more]

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