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    If we go to the next verse we can see, the focus is not where Satan sits, but the abominations they are dwelling in,
    which are of Satan.
    Therefore they are dwelling in Satan spiritually.

    The focus of the verse is about those Believers that dwell  where Satan’s throne is. Plain and simple.

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    It clearly states: “I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you,where Satan dwells…

    So saying that it doesn’t mean what it says is hard for me to accept and honestly I would be a fool to be talked out o…[Read more]

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    It clearly states: “I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you,where Satan dwells…

    So saying that it doesn’t mean what it says is hard for me to accept and honestly I would be a fool to be talked out o…[Read more]

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    It clearly states: I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you,where Satan dwells

    So saying that it doesn’t mean what it says is hard for me to accept and honestly I would be a fool to be talked out of wh…[Read more]

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    It clearly states: I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you,where Satan dwells

    So saying that it doesn’t mean what it says is hard for me to accept and honestly I would be a fool to be talked out of wh…[Read more]

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    It clearly states: I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you,where Satan dwells

    So saying that it doesn’t mean what it says is hard for me to accept and honestly I would be a fool to be talked out of wh…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, the scriptures and commentary you give is good IMO.

    However, you failed at the end when you said:

    yeah; even today. Scriptural fact; the little horn will come out of one of them four kingdoms, no where else.
    We are under a greek system of government; called democracy.( people rule; therefore we vote for our leader).
    The ottoman was not…

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    Wakeup, the scriptures and commentary you give is good IMO.

    However, you failed at the end when you said:

    yeah; even today. Scriptural fact; the little horn will come out of one of them four kingdoms, no where else.
    We are under a greek system of government; called democracy.( people rule; therefore we vote for our leader).
    The ottoman was not…

    [Read more]

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    Wakeup, the scriptures and commentary you give is good IMO.

    However, you failed at the end when you said:

    yeah; even today. Scriptural fact; the little horn will come out of one of them four kingdoms, no where else.
    We are under a greek system of government; called democracy.( people rule; therefore we vote for our leader).
    The ottoman was not…

    [Read more]

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    Wakeup, the scriptures and commentary you give is good IMO.

    However, you failed at the end when you said:

    yeah; even today. Scriptural fact; the little horn will come out of one of them four kingdoms, no where else.
    We are under a greek system of government; called democracy.( people rule; therefore we vote for our leader).
    The ottoman was not…

    [Read more]

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    Wakeup, the scriptures and commentary you give is good IMO.

    However, you failed at the end when you said:

    yeah; even today. Scriptural fact; the little horn will come out of one of them four kingdoms, no where else.
    We are under a greek system of government; called democracy.( people rule; therefore we vote for our leader).
    The ottoman was not…

    [Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY IT IS ROME ,well what power would it be if not Rome ? when the kingdom of God was set up ?(Jesus time)

    and as i learned when constantine move himself to constantinople it did not change the head of Rome (parliament ,the senate ,)

    My point was it doesn’t say Rome. It says the empire that IS. Which was of course Rome. What I…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Further, I would like to tell you why there is confusion on this subject about who the last empire is.

    Daniel is focussing in the fourth beast, because that is still ahead of him and we know now that the messiah was born while that beast was reigning. Daniel is looking toward Rome which as we know was a terrible beast that trampled the world…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Further, I would like to tell you why there is confusion on this subject about who the last empire is.

    Daniel is focussing in the fourth beast, because that is still ahead of him and we know now that the messiah was born while that beast was reigning. Daniel is looking toward Rome which as we know was a terrible beast that trampled the world…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Further, I would like to tell you why there is confusion on this subject about who the last empire is.

    Daniel is focussing in the fourth beast, because that is still ahead of him and we know now that the messiah was born while that beast was reigning. Daniel is looking toward Rome which as we know was a terrible beast that trampled the world…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Further, I would like to tell you why there is confusion on this subject about who the last empire is.

    Daniel is focussing in the fourth beast, because that is still ahead and the messiah was born while that beast was reigning. Daniel is look toward Rome.

    But we do not look toward Rome. We look back at Rome as it is already passed.

    We are…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Further, I would like to tell you why there is confusion on this subject about who the last empire is.

    Daniel is focussing in the fourth beast, because that is still ahead and the messiah was born while that beast was reigning. Daniel is look toward Rome.

    But we do not look toward Rome. We look back at Rome as it is already passed.

    We are…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Clearly there is a distinction in the legs and feet.

    Da 2:40
    Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
    Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a d…[Read more]

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    If both of you are leaning Dutch is that Double Dutch?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

     

    Daniel 2;44 says that the rock from the mountain strikes the statue at the feet ;so this is Rome at the time of Christ coming

    that is when the new kingdom was set up ,this is what scriptures says ;

    Most people view the legs and feet as being different just as the torso is different to the legs.

    Further, there are seven kings, but an eighth…[Read more]

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