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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    terraricca, you ignore history. The Roman Empire moved its capital to Constantinople and reigned a further 1000 years. You can easily find out this information for yourself. Your argument is not with me. I am simply reciting history. You need to prove that this history is wrong. I can’t even wish you good luck with that. lol. It is hard when you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    terraricca, you ignore history. The Roman Empire moved its capital to Constantinople and reigned a further 1000 years. You can easily find out this information for yourself. Your argument is not with me. I am simply reciting history. You need to prove that this history is wrong. I can’t even wish you good luck with that. lol. It is hard when you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    terraricca, you ignore history. The Roman Empire moved its capital to Constantinople and reigned a further 1000 years. You can easily find out this information for yourself. Your argument is not with me. I am simply reciting history. You need to prove that this history is wrong. I can’t even wish you good luck with that. lol. It is hard when you…[Read more]

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    The woman that sits on the beast with seven heads and ten horns is the religion that came from Babylon. This religion has infiltrated all succeeding empires and often the names of Nimrod and his wife have changed, but they are the same in each culture. Babylon is also a city.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    Here are the facts:

    The antichrist spirit exhibits a number of traits, one being that they deny the Father and Son.
    Because Islam teaches that God has no son, they clearly and openly deny the Father and Son.
    Islamic Caliphates are not only political entities but they are also religious with their own laws and times.
    The Ottoman Empire was the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    Here are the facts:

    The antichrist spirit exhibits a number of traits, one being that they deny the Father and Son.
    Because Islam teaches that God has no son, they clearly and openly deny the Father and Son.
    Islamic Caliphates are not only political entities but they are also religious with their own laws and times.
    The Ottoman Empire was the…[Read more]

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    Cheers Nick. Thanks for your post Devo.

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    I just did a quick google .. thought this interesting .. My angle is that no matter where Pergamum was geographically, it was unquestionably part of the still thriving Roman empire .. thus the argument over a literal throne or metaphoric throne being there is moot .. because historically .. during that cities time relevance .. scripturally…

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    I just did a quick google .. thought this interesting .. My angle is that no matter where Pergamum was geographically, it was unquestionably part of the still thriving Roman empire .. thus the argument over a literal throne or metaphoric throne being there is moot .. because historically .. during that cities time relevance .. scripturally…

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    “And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed AMONG YOU, where Satan dwells.
    Were they dwelling WITH SATAN, OR IN…

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    No you would not be a fool. This is solid food T8. Anyone could read this passage and come up with your interpretation. You want to understand the solids don’t you? The whole world can read revelations, and not be given understanding, so I am showing you that you are interpreting it wrong which is why I gave my reasons.

    I cannot in good c…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

    There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

    There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

    There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

    There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    There is no evidence that the 7th is here now.

    The seventh passed in the wake of WWI. So it isn’t here now. We await the eighth according to this eschatology.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    The Ottoman Empire conquered The Roman Empire. It ruled for 500 or so years and ended in the wake of WWI. That is relatively recent. Existed from 1299 to 1922 (approx). Remember that one of the heads of the beast died, but it comes back. If the Islamic Empire rises again say in 2022, then that would be 100 years when it died and came back to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 11 months ago

    The Ottoman Empire conquered The Roman Empire. It ruled for 500 or so years and ended in the wake of WWI. That is relatively recent. Existed from 1299 to 1922 (approx). Wikipedia says it better than myself:

    The Ottoman Empire (/ˈɒtəmən/; Ottoman Turkish: دَوْلَتِ عَلِيّهٔ عُثمَانِیّه, Devlet-i Aliyye-i Osmâniyye, Modern Turkish: Osmanlı İmparato…

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    Here is the full text for the Church of Pergamum. Please do not shoot me, the words are not mine, but from the one who has a two edged sword.  Please argue with him, not me. I did not speak or write this from my own spirit. I have copied it straight out of scripture.

    To the Church in Pergamum

    12“To the angel of the church in Pergamum writ…[Read more]

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