I just did a quick google .. thought this interesting .. My angle is that no matter where Pergamum was geographically, it was unquestionably part of the still thriving Roman empire .. thus the argument over a literal throne or metaphoric throne being there is moot .. because historically .. during that cities time relevance .. scripturally…

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“And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed AMONG YOU, where Satan dwells.
Were they dwelling WITH SATAN, OR IN…

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No you would not be a fool. This is solid food T8. Anyone could read this passage and come up with your interpretation. You want to understand the solids don’t you? The whole world can read revelations, and not be given understanding, so I am showing you that you are interpreting it wrong which is why I gave my reasons.

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Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

Can you name a muslem EMPIRE in existence today?

There is a declared Islamic Caliphate now. It would take some time to grow into an empire. Could be quicker than you think though. The whole Middle East is weak at the moment. Remember that their kings fell in the Arab Spring. An Islamic Caliphate could fill the vacuum of power there at the…[Read more]

There is no evidence that the 7th is here now.

The seventh passed in the wake of WWI. So it isn’t here now. We await the eighth according to this eschatology.

The Ottoman Empire conquered The Roman Empire. It ruled for 500 or so years and ended in the wake of WWI. That is relatively recent. Existed from 1299 to 1922 (approx). Remember that one of the heads of the beast died, but it comes back. If the Islamic Empire rises again say in 2022, then that would be 100 years when it died and came back to…[Read more]

The Ottoman Empire conquered The Roman Empire. It ruled for 500 or so years and ended in the wake of WWI. That is relatively recent. Existed from 1299 to 1922 (approx). Wikipedia says it better than myself:

The Ottoman Empire (/ˈɒtəmən/; Ottoman Turkish: دَوْلَتِ عَلِيّهٔ عُثمَانِیّه, Devlet-i Aliyye-i Osmâniyye, Modern Turkish: Osmanlı İmparato…

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Here is the full text for the Church of Pergamum. Please do not shoot me, the words are not mine, but from the one who has a two edged sword.  Please argue with him, not me. I did not speak or write this from my own spirit. I have copied it straight out of scripture.

To the Church in Pergamum

12“To the angel of the church in Pergamum writ…[Read more]

You are allowed to not believe scripture and go against it. I don’t recommend it however, but I choose to believe this even though you do not.

“And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My…[Read more]

You are allowed to not believe scripture and go against it. I don’t recommend it however, but I choose to believe this even though you do not.

“And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My…[Read more]

did the ottoman empire existed in the time that John wrote Revelation NO ,the ottoman empire is dead and the only thing what ISSI is doing is a mere try in conquering what it can in those areas for the american and friends ad started it ,

if ISSIS would really become a danger i believe that the western nation would go and get it out wherever it…

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Since the 15th century, the Caliphate was claimed by the Turkish Ottoman sultans beginning with Fatih Sultan Mehmed. They gradually came to be viewed as the de facto leaders and representatives of the Islamic world.

Unless history is a lie. the Ottoman Empire conquered the Roman Empire. It took over the capital Constantinople and changed the name…[Read more]

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satan does not sit in a city but that would mean he as a stronghold of people that are against the truth of God ,like the Jews with Jesus

We are told to listen to what the spirit says to the Churches. In the same book we are told the following:
“To the angel of the church in Pergamum write:
These are the words of him who has the sharp,…[Read more]

Like what ? except 70 ad ?

Well the next head of the beast. The seventh king for example.

Terr. Not speculation. He focusses on the fourth beast that is in his future and because it is different to the other beasts. Further, he did not focus on the past empires as they were not the future, and he did not focus on Greece for example. Rome was not only a significant empire, but also the one when our messiah was born. All fact my friend.

Satan is not confined to have a throne in one area.
Satan is the God of this world, and he rules everywhere, in men’s hearts.
Satan’s throne is a spiritual one. His dominion. If we follow him, we are kneeling before his throne so to speak.

Human reasoning here.

If we applied your reasoning to scripture as a whole, then Jesus would not rule from…[Read more]

Satan is not confined to have a throne in one area.
Satan is the God of this world, and he rules everywhere, in men’s hearts.
Satan’s throne is a spiritual one. His dominion. If we follow him, we are kneeling before his throne so to speak.

Human reasoning here.

If we applied your reasoning to scripture as a whole, then Jesus would not rule from…[Read more]