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    Here is a Bible passage that seems to fit how internet forums operate in our modern age: Ezekiel 33:30-33 People gather in groups and talk among themselves, saying: Let us see if there is any message from the Lord.
    So people will read what is posted, but they will not act on it. Fine words, they will say, with insincerity, for their hearts are set…

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    According to some biblical scholars and map specialists, Magog, Gomer, Tubal, Meshech, and Togarmah are all in one place, Turkey.

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    Been a long break.

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    It is natural in people that when one senses fear in another, he will almost inevitably move to dominate that person. This is the very thing that the enemy of our souls does to us to spiritually.
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    Gene, Gene, Gene, salvation is a free gift of God, lest any man should boast. It is given by God and you have to receive it. God gives all good things. If he did not give us repentance, then how could we choose to repent.

    You have chosen to stick to your view and fit scripture into it.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    as for your map of the ottoman empire how much is sand ?

    As much as any other empire. lol. I can see that your biblical view is saturated with western ideals.

    You need to read the book as a Middle East book and understanding the culture and history in that part of the world. This will help you understand the Bible better and the context. Most…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    as for your map of the ottoman empire how much is sand ?

    As much as any other empire. lol. I can see that your biblical view is saturated with western ideals.

    You need to read the book as a Middle East book and understanding the culture and history in that part of the world. This will help you understand the Bible better and the context. Most…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    as for your map of the ottoman empire how much is sand ?

    As much as any other empire. lol. I can see that your biblical view is saturated with western ideals.

    You need to read the book as a Middle East book and understanding the culture and history in that part of the world. This will help you understand the Bible better and the context. Most…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    as for your map of the ottoman empire how much is sand ?

    As much as any other empire. lol. I can see that your biblical view is saturated with western ideals.

    You need to read the book as a Middle East book and understanding the culture and history in that part of the world. This will help you understand the Bible better and the context. Most…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    t8

    6)Rome was clearly the sixth kingdom. It was the one that was in existence, when John gave the prophecy.

    this i never denied ;for it is true ,

    Good, then you will be able to understand what I am about to say next. Read this verse again.

    Revelation 17:9
    Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    terraricca, you ignore history. The Roman Empire moved its capital to Constantinople and reigned a further 1000 years. You can easily find out this information for yourself. Your argument is not with me. I am simply reciting history. You need to prove that this history is wrong. I can’t even wish you good luck with that. lol. It is hard when you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    terraricca, you ignore history. The Roman Empire moved its capital to Constantinople and reigned a further 1000 years. You can easily find out this information for yourself. Your argument is not with me. I am simply reciting history. You need to prove that this history is wrong. I can’t even wish you good luck with that. lol. It is hard when you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    terraricca, you ignore history. The Roman Empire moved its capital to Constantinople and reigned a further 1000 years. You can easily find out this information for yourself. Your argument is not with me. I am simply reciting history. You need to prove that this history is wrong. I can’t even wish you good luck with that. lol. It is hard when you…[Read more]

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    The woman that sits on the beast with seven heads and ten horns is the religion that came from Babylon. This religion has infiltrated all succeeding empires and often the names of Nimrod and his wife have changed, but they are the same in each culture. Babylon is also a city.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Here are the facts:

    The antichrist spirit exhibits a number of traits, one being that they deny the Father and Son.
    Because Islam teaches that God has no son, they clearly and openly deny the Father and Son.
    Islamic Caliphates are not only political entities but they are also religious with their own laws and times.
    The Ottoman Empire was the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Here are the facts:

    The antichrist spirit exhibits a number of traits, one being that they deny the Father and Son.
    Because Islam teaches that God has no son, they clearly and openly deny the Father and Son.
    Islamic Caliphates are not only political entities but they are also religious with their own laws and times.
    The Ottoman Empire was the…[Read more]

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    Cheers Nick. Thanks for your post Devo.

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    I just did a quick google .. thought this interesting .. My angle is that no matter where Pergamum was geographically, it was unquestionably part of the still thriving Roman empire .. thus the argument over a literal throne or metaphoric throne being there is moot .. because historically .. during that cities time relevance .. scripturally…

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