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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 10 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 10 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 10 months ago

    Thanks for your post Kerwin. Whatever he says about the will of man,  scripture says that man was FREE to eat from any tree in the garden. He clearly opposes this in order to preserve one of his pet doctrines.

    Gene, when God said to man, “You can freely eat from any tree in the garden”, was he not telling us the truth. And by denying that we a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 10 months ago

    Gene, when God said to man, “You can freely eat from any tree in the garden”, was he not telling us the truth. And by denying that we are not free to choose, then you are correcting God. You are basically saying, “excuse me God, we are not free to eat from any tree, our wills are captive., and we cannot choose freely”.

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    Yes Gene, we all have sin and especially me. But my heart is to serve God and to not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. I fail many times. But I have a covenant with God that when I do sin, I can confess my sins and he will forgive me because he said he will.

    I brought this up Gene because you are so bent on the idea that God did not allow men to…[Read more]

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    Yes Gene, we all have sin and especially me. But my heart is to serve God and to not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. I fail many times. But I have a covenant with God that when I do sin, I can confess my sins and he will forgive me because he said he will.

    I brought this up Gene because you are so bent on the idea that God did not allow men to…[Read more]

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    Gene, you deny that we can choose freely among the allowable choices. So that means that Adam and Eve could not freely eat from any tree in the garden.

    Case closed Gene because you clearly deny scripture that teaches and demonstrates that men can choose freely and choose God or choose the flesh and the world.

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    Gene, you deny that we can choose freely among the allowable choices. So that means that Adam and Eve could not freely eat from any tree in the garden.

    Case closed Gene because you clearly deny scripture.

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    Are we required to be either Jesus or a prophet of God in order to use the scriptures for “teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”? (2 Tim 3:16)

    Believe me, it is the IDEAS that I rebuke scripturally – not their character. But in the process of rebuking one of their ideas that they really, really WANT to be the scrip…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 10 months ago

    @wakeup

    Walid says that islam will come up and become the 8th empire.
    Scripture says that the 7th beast is of iron and clay, both left and right feet.
    The 8th beast will come out of the bottomless pit and is of the 7th.
    This means that the beast (7th empire) is in existence today, and will morph into the 8th.
    The 7th will not start from scratch,…

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    His return will be spectacular and will proceed great destruction. Justice and good will on Earth thereafter.

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    Sorry but I prefer to talk about one or two points at a time, otherwise we need to write essays in every post and nothing gets sorted.

    I have an outstanding question to be answered and I will answer one of yours.

    Here is mine again:

    If you hold the view that this is the war after the Millennial reign, my point is why bury the bodies at all (for…

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    Sorry but I prefer to talk about one or two points at a time, otherwise we need to write essays in every post and nothing gets sorted.

    I have an outstanding question to be answered and I will answer one of yours.

    Here is mine again:

    If you hold the view that this is the war after the Millennial reign, my point is why bury the bodies at all (for…

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    My advice Wakeup, read the Book of Proverbs. I am serious. I think it will help you a lot.

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    Shouldn’t throw stones in glass houses right. You rejected a whole eschatology that ticks all the boxes. But even if it ticks all the boxes, it may not be true. This is why I do not subscribe to one theory. I do not wish to be like all those people out there who have the truth, yet all disagree. lol. And they all believe as hard as you do. Sta…[Read more]

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    Shouldn’t throw stones in glass houses right.

    You rejected a whole eschatology that ticks all the boxes.

    But even if it ticks all the boxes, it may not be true.

    This is why I do not subscribe to one theory. I do not wish to be like all those people out there who have the truth, yet all disagree. lol. And they all believe as hard as you do.…[Read more]

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    Shouldn’t throw stones in glass houses right.

    You rejected a whole eschatology that ticks all the boxes.

    But even if it ticks all the boxes, it may not be true.

    This is why I do not subscribe to one theory. I do not wish to be like all those people out there who have the truth, yet all disagree.

    lol. And they all believe as hard as you…[Read more]

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    Shouldn’t throw stones in glass houses right.

    You rejected a whole eschatology that ticks all the boxes.

    But even if it ticks all the boxes, it may not be true.

    This is why I do not subscribe to one theory. I do not wish to be like all those people out there who have the truth, yet all disagree.

    lol. And they all believe as hard as you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 10 months ago

    Okay, so the seventh is yet to arrive and the eighth comes out of the resurrection.

    So when we meet the king in the air, the eighth king will appear on Earth afterward, who is of the seventh that is yet to come.

    Regarding the eighth king, will he rule with the seventh, conquer the seventh, or be the same as the seventh, but will be a man who was…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 10 months ago

    Okay, so the seventh is yet to arrive and the eighth comes out of the resurrection.

    So when the dead when we all meet the king in the air, the eighth king will appear on Earth, who is of the seventh that is yet to come.

    Regarding the eighth king, will he rule with the seventh, conquer the seventh, or be the same as the seventh but will be a man…[Read more]

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