My point is not that they could not freely chose to eat from it OR NOT, it is what made them WILL TO EAT OF IT, was it just some desire freely floating around in their head, that sudenly became their will, or was it THERE A “CAUSE” THAT “CAUSED” THEM TO “WILL” TO EAT OF IT?

Gene, let me translate your following sentence for you as you cannot see…[Read more]

My point is not that they could not freely chose to eat from it OR NOT, it is what made them WILL TO EAT OF IT, was it just some desire freely floating around in their head, that sudenly became their will, or was it THERE A “CAUSE” THAT “CAUSED” THEM TO “WILL” TO EAT OF IT?

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T8…..first of all GOD DID NOT SAY MAN WAS FREE TO EAT OF “ANY” TREE, HE Commanded the not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, least they die. That is when man sinned by disobeying GOD’S COMMAND NOT TO EAT OF the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But you are right they did eat of it any way and all have,and all have died also.

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T8…..first of all GOD DID NOT SAY MAN WAS FREE TO EAT OF “ANY” TREE, HE Commanded the not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, least they die. That is when man sinned by disobeying GOD’S COMMAND NOT TO EAT OF the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But you are right they did eat of it any way and all have,and all have died also.

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T8…..first of all GOD DID NOT SAY MAN WAS FREE TO EAT OF “ANY” TREE, HE Commanded the not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, least they die. That is when man sinned by disobeying GOD’S COMMAND NOT TO EAT OF the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But you are right they did eat of it any way and all have,and all have died also.

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Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

Did God let man eat FREELY from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

Yes

No

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Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

Did God let man eat FREELY from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

Yes

No

?

Understand that I am not accusing you of anything. I am trying to understand why you hold this view contrary to what scripture teaches and demonstrates. I had a guess and used words like perhaps and maybe. Where did I ever say otherwise. I mean really how would I know if this was the case or not? But now you have me wondering all the more.…[Read more]

Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

Did God let man eat FREELY from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

Yes

No

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Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

Did God FREELY let man eat from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

Yes

No

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Gene, did God allow man to FREELY choose to eat from any tree in the garden except one?

Yes or no.

If you say yes, then you agree that God give us the ability to choose freely among options tha the makes available to us.

If you answer no, then you oppose that verse in Genesis.

Which is wrong? That verse in Genesis or you?

scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

Thanks for your post Kerwin. Whatever he says about the will of man,  scripture says that man was FREE to eat from any tree in the garden. He clearly opposes this in order to preserve one of his pet doctrines.

Gene, when God said to man, “You can freely eat from any tree in the garden”, was he not telling us the truth. And by denying that we a…[Read more]

Gene, when God said to man, “You can freely eat from any tree in the garden”, was he not telling us the truth. And by denying that we are not free to choose, then you are correcting God. You are basically saying, “excuse me God, we are not free to eat from any tree, our wills are captive., and we cannot choose freely”.

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