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    Kerwin, when an empire comes to an end, it leaves behind countries. Nothing strange about that.

    This was the empire at its height.

    The Ottoman Empire In 1683 The Ottoman Empire In 1683

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 9 months ago

    A free captivated will. lol. I am free to express my captivated will. lol+1

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 9 months ago

    Yes. But a series of yes no questions will disable the devil in the details.

    Although he might say, ‘yes but’. In your opinion, is that a no?

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    My first question. You must start the answer with Yes, No, or I don’t know.

    An explanation can follow your answer so we can understand your reasoning.

    And the LORD God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it…[Read more]

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    My first question. You must start the answer with Yes, No, or I don’t know.

    An explanation can follow your answer so we can understand your reasoning.

    And the LORD God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 9 months ago

    Gene.

    I have put you on the Hot Seat:

    t8 vs gene on free will

    See you there.

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    Hi Gene. I am taking you to the Hot Seat regarding your teaching that there is no free will.

    I will ask you a question, and you must answer or get booted from the forums.

    Then you can ask me a question and if I do not answer, then I have to boot myself from the forums.

    If you do not want to ask me a question in return, then I am free to ask…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene. I am taking you to the Hot Seat regarding your teaching that there is no free will.

    I will ask you a question, and you must answer or get booted from the forums.

    Then you can ask me a question and if I do not answer, then I have to boot myself from the forums.

    To fast forward this topic somewhat I will post a question I posted to Gene…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 9 months ago

    T8…..you still are stuck in thinking i am denying we have freedom to express our captivated will, i know we can choose among many options, but you will chose the option that is greatest influencing you, hardly a will it self begin free.

    we have freedom to express our captivated will, i know we can choose among many options, but you will chose t…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 9 months ago

    I have to disagree with one or two of you here.

    The ancient texts including the Dead Sea Scrolls show us that our Bibles are pretty accurate. With such a wealth of texts, it is not that hard to spot additions, mistakes, and translational errors. No other books have such a wealth of manuscripts and texts to draw upon.

    When these books are copied…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 9 months ago

    I have to disagree with one or two of you here.

    The ancient texts including the Dead Sea Scrolls show us that our Bibles are pretty accurate. With such a wealth of texts, it is not that hard to spot additions, mistakes, and translational errors. No other books have such a wealth of manuscripts and texts to draw upon.

    When these books are copied…[Read more]

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    Um yes, are you serious. lol. The Ottoman Empire ended in 1924 after 500 or so years. Are you reading my posts properly? What gives you the idea that I think it is still around. Please some well thought out and and interesting conversation on these topics. Otherwise what is the point in discussing it.

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    Proclaimer posted a new activity comment 11 years, 9 months ago

    If you go to the bottom of any page in that topic or any other topic, you can see an area where you make a post. Posts are appended to the last page, so the first post in the topic is the earliest post with latest being the last.
    If you have any trouble posting, let me know.
    🙂

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    There is no way ISIS can be the beast because it is a new thing.    The Ottoman empire is  still existent as it is Turkey.  It is reduced in size so it is hard to say it is an Empire and there has been a change in government so dynasties are a thing of the past.

    Your not paying attention. I am not saying ISIS is the Beast. Rather that the clim…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer posted a new activity comment 11 years, 9 months ago

    Ah yes, you are talking about this:

    Testing the Trinity


    I wrote that too.
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    Proclaimer posted a new activity comment 11 years, 9 months ago

    If you are referring to this teaching, then it was me.

    The Trinity Doctrine


    🙂

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    Anyway, I am not sure that we resolved an earlier question of mine.

    You said you agree that you believe John 17:3

    “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” 

    I have to call this one out. You do not believe that the Father is the only true God. You believe that he along with J…[Read more]

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    Notice that wisdom is an attribute like the others mentioned here.

    “I, wisdom, dwell with prudence,
        and I find knowledge and discretion.
    13 The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil.
    Pride and arrogance and the way of evil
        and perverted speech I hate.

    A change in tune. Wisdom is brought forth, something you say that Jesus was and is.

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    The Israelites are also God’s people, but many times they have turned away from God and suffered great judgement.

    He has not abandoned them, but we are grafted into the tree, while they are the natural branches.

    God still has plans for them and Israel is his country and Jerusalem where the son will  rule when the kingdoms of this world have all fallen.

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    I watched half an hour of this. It is late and have to go to bed.

    So far not convinced that the British Empire is part of the Beast even if was is still powerful and rich.

    The empires that made up the Beast all came from the same part of the world and oppressed and/or ruled over God’s people, the Jews.

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