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    So what happened to the old Jesus. Was he overtaken by the Word? Did he die and not come back to life? Where is he?

    If the old Jesus is still alive, is he co-existing with the Word or was he replaced?

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    T8,in your honest opinion is Joyner a true prophet? You are the one who quoted him on your site.Is that true or not?

    Let me remind you that this site is for testing of all things right.

    So if Joyner is quoted, then his quote is up for critique which it is. People quote all kinds of people here and put up discussions on all kinds of people. The…[Read more]

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    Remember that during His ministry Jesus kept His Divine origin closely guarded, so as not to thwart the purpose of His earthly mission, warning the disciples not to speak about His true identity until after the Resurrection..(Mark 9:9 Mark 8:30) so, of course while praying, He acknowledges the Father as the one true God – but in so doing Jesus

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    Remember that during His ministry Jesus kept His Divine origin closely guarded, so as not to thwart the purpose of His earthly mission, warning the disciples not to speak about His true identity until after the Resurrection..(Mark 9:9 Mark 8:30) so, of course while praying, He acknowledges the Father as the one true God – but in so doing Jesus

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    Yes Nick, they like to believe that the Trinity is not really mentioned because it was taken for granted back in the day. But they need to remind us of this.
    Or the doctrine was worked out over time making it a new teaching, one that the disciples hadn’t figured out yet.
    Or maybe it is just one of the deceptions that we were warned about.

    Of…[Read more]

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    God is spirit. He is the Father of spirits.

    Do not think carnally about God being a Father.

    This whole gender idea you talk about Bod is irrelevant.

    God is not a man that he should lie.

    But the true spirit in you is showing.

    God has no son or offspring is your teaching.

    We ignore this, as we reject the antichrist spirit that denies the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    The Father of God? Or God?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    Oh boy where do I start.

    Our oneness with Christ makes us children..
    But Christ’s Oneness with the Father makes Him equal to God..

    And why is that? ‘Just because’ right?

    “Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb…No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    Oh boy where so I start.

    Our oneness with Christ makes us children..
    But Christ’s Oneness with the Father makes Him equal to God..

    And why is that? ‘Just because’ right?

    “Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb…No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THE TRINITY..

    Let me put this another way for you which keeps your understanding intact.

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THAT JESUS IS…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THE TRINITY..

    Let me put this another way for you which keeps your understanding intact.

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THAT JESUS IS…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THE TRINITY..

    Let me put this another way for you which keeps your understanding intact.

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THAT JESUS IS…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    First, in your testimony you seem to have conveniently left out the part where you have obviously studied Catholic doctrine and triad belief systems, which unfortunately would have a major impact on how you view Scripture…but you leave this out, so we are left to presume that your teaching is based purely on Scripture…? so even your own tes…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 6 months ago

    First, in your testimony you seem to have conveniently left out the part where you have obviously studied Catholic doctrine and triad belief systems, which unfortunately would have a major impact on how you view Scripture…but you leave this out, so we are left to presume that your teaching is based purely on Scripture…? so even your own tes…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 6 months ago

    God is more faithful to his people than you think.

    If they walk away from him, he lets them suffer at the hands of their enemies by removing his protection, but only because they walked away from him.

    But he desires that they come back to him. He doesn’t send out prophets to organise armies to smite them. No that is the great adversary who does…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 6 months ago

    God hands his people over to their enemies to be enslaved or whatever when they worship other gods etc.

    God does not command people to smite his people the Jews or to smite those of the Church.

    God also has a son.

    No amount of human reasoning is going to talk me out of giving up and following false prophets and false teachers.

    I wouldn’t sell…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 6 months ago

    Bod, in times past God used his people to fight enemies.

    But in the new covenant God works primarily through his people of which he has said through his son, we should love one another as we love ourselves and without love our actions are worthless.

    Disciples of Jesus were led to the colosseum to be attacked by animals and men who were like…[Read more]

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    As for the transfiguration, why do you not believe the clear testimony of the Father, when he said, “This is my beloved son”?

    Instead you focus on twisting the event to prove a Trinity?

    Your explanation is clouded.

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    YES the devil has his own trinity CONCEPT

    If you have Trinity on the brain, then you can see Trinities everywhere you look. The same could be said for Binities. e.g., man and woman. Day and night. Negative and positive. This proves nothing.

    If the Trinity is a central doctrine because 3 are mentioned, then why not take these Trinities…[Read more]

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    ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THE REASON WHY, SINCE YOU ARE IN CONFUSION REGARDING THE TRINITY DOCTRINE, and all what is related to it.

    No confusion whatsoever. I understand the Trinity Doctrine and hence the reason I do not believe it.

    For me, there is one God the Father, and One Lord the Lord Jesus Christ. He was made both Lord and Christ…[Read more]

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