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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THE TRINITY..

    Let me put this another way for you which keeps your understanding intact.

    What you constantly fail to understand is that to acknowledge the Father as God and Jesus as His Son IN NO WAY INVALIDATES THAT JESUS IS…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago

    First, in your testimony you seem to have conveniently left out the part where you have obviously studied Catholic doctrine and triad belief systems, which unfortunately would have a major impact on how you view Scripture…but you leave this out, so we are left to presume that your teaching is based purely on Scripture…? so even your own tes…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago

    First, in your testimony you seem to have conveniently left out the part where you have obviously studied Catholic doctrine and triad belief systems, which unfortunately would have a major impact on how you view Scripture…but you leave this out, so we are left to presume that your teaching is based purely on Scripture…? so even your own tes…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 4 months ago

    God is more faithful to his people than you think.

    If they walk away from him, he lets them suffer at the hands of their enemies by removing his protection, but only because they walked away from him.

    But he desires that they come back to him. He doesn’t send out prophets to organise armies to smite them. No that is the great adversary who does…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 4 months ago

    God hands his people over to their enemies to be enslaved or whatever when they worship other gods etc.

    God does not command people to smite his people the Jews or to smite those of the Church.

    God also has a son.

    No amount of human reasoning is going to talk me out of giving up and following false prophets and false teachers.

    I wouldn’t sell…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 4 months ago

    Bod, in times past God used his people to fight enemies.

    But in the new covenant God works primarily through his people of which he has said through his son, we should love one another as we love ourselves and without love our actions are worthless.

    Disciples of Jesus were led to the colosseum to be attacked by animals and men who were like…[Read more]

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    As for the transfiguration, why do you not believe the clear testimony of the Father, when he said, “This is my beloved son”?

    Instead you focus on twisting the event to prove a Trinity?

    Your explanation is clouded.

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    YES the devil has his own trinity CONCEPT

    If you have Trinity on the brain, then you can see Trinities everywhere you look. The same could be said for Binities. e.g., man and woman. Day and night. Negative and positive. This proves nothing.

    If the Trinity is a central doctrine because 3 are mentioned, then why not take these Trinities…[Read more]

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    ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THE REASON WHY, SINCE YOU ARE IN CONFUSION REGARDING THE TRINITY DOCTRINE, and all what is related to it.

    No confusion whatsoever. I understand the Trinity Doctrine and hence the reason I do not believe it.

    For me, there is one God the Father, and One Lord the Lord Jesus Christ. He was made both Lord and Christ…[Read more]

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    And the Dead in Christ rise first, then we who are alive will meet them along with our Lord in the air.

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    You guys simply will not learn no matter what you keep saying if I don’t refer to Jesus as “son of God” that somehow makes me not believe in him and yet there is no mention of Jesus being called son of God in the book of James in-fact he leaves out the terms Father and Son so is James wrong too? These were all individual books once so James wrote…

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    So when God breathed into Adam he became his Father? Genesis just says he became a living soul, does your bible say something different? But , Was Jesus created like Adam was is he the second Adam?

    1 Corinthians 15:45
    So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

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    There is no suggestion that the Word was thence outside of Jesus Christ

    The Word was with God was not Jesus, however, the Word became flesh, so the Word is now Jesus Christ (wholly) who is with God now.

    Is that a good summation?

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    There is no suggestion that the Word was thence outside of Jesus Christ

    The Word was with God was not Jesus, however, the Word became flesh, so the Word is now Jesus Christ (wholly) who is with God.

    Is that a good summation?

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    Sorry I posted this under the Admin ID.

    Here it is again. But it appears to you may have already responded to it.

    Okay, so when the Word inhabited the body (tent) of Jesus Christ, then Jesus own Spirit cohabited the flesh with the Word?

    If so, then does Jesus own spirit still resides in his body or was it replaced by the Word?

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    Kerwin, my questioning is trying to narrow down these differences with how Nick understands things.

    It has little to do with what I actually believe at this stage and more about the Word that was with God and was theos from his view. I am not asking these questions because I need to know the answer, although if I learn something new that would…[Read more]

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    Kerwin, my questioning is trying to narrow down these differences with how Nick understands things.

    It has little to do with what I actually believe about the Word that was with God and was theos. I am not asking these questions because I need to know the answer, although if I learn something new that would be helpful. I have already explained…[Read more]

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    One day a farmer’s donkey fell down into a well. The animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do. Finally, he decided the animal was old, and the well needed to be covered up

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    Donkey in a well

    One day a farmer’s donkey fell down into a well. The animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do. Finally, he decided the animal was old, and the well needed to be covered up anyway; it just wasn’t worth it to retrieve the donkey.

    He invited all his neighbors to come over and help him. They all grabbed a…[Read more]

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    Hi KayRaa12.

    This popped up on my Facebook Wall just now and thought I would share it with you. I can relate to this because I feel like this happened to me.

    Donkey in a well

    One day a farmer’s donkey fell down into a well. The animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do. Finally, he decided the animal was old, and the well…[Read more]

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