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    Because the Son is One with the Father in His Deity (with God as God) – we as branches can partake of that divine nature..

    this doesn’t make us God – it makes us Christ-like

    we become sons through THE Son – receiving THE DIVINE NATURE OF THE SON.

    “For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him

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    “To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with My Father on His throne.” (Rev 3:21)

    Here we see TWO thrones..

    Let’s look at this truthfully. The text mentions two thrones, so it doesn’t mean there are two thrones in existence.

    And just as we who are victorious are not…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 5 months ago

    DavidL, clearly I and others prefer scripture and not the doctrines of men and demon, especially those that came centuries later and contradict scripture which precedes it. Surely you can understand our concern.

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    Hi t8,

    Jesus did not exist till he was conceived so what does coming in the flesh mean then?

    In 1 Jn 4 it says

    ” Every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is from God”

    That is my confession.

    We no longer speak of Jesus CHRIST according to the FLESH – but you seem to be stuck in that mode

    You have said that Jesus…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    Jesus did not exist till he was conceived so what does coming in the flesh mean then?

    In 1 Jn 4 it says

    ” Every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is from God”

    That is my confession.

    We no longer speak of Jesus CHRIST according to the FLESH – but you seem to be stuck in that mode

    You said that Jesus is the f…[Read more]

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    I wonder how much confusion comes from us being in the dimension of time and hearing from a God who is not subject to time but is eternal.

    A thousand years is as one day and one day like a thousand years and He calls into being things that were not.

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    Davdil, you have been brainwashed.

    Not even the words of eternal life from the son of the Living God will convince you.

    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

    Only a brainwashed person can say they listen to Jesus words and then ignore his words.

    There is no other explanation.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 5 months ago

    @DavidL

    Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
    which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
    you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..

    John 17:3
    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you hav…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 5 months ago

    @DavidL

    Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
    which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
    you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..

    John 17:3
    Okay, now is the time for you to explain why Jesus words here do not mean what they say…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 5 months ago

    @DavidL

    Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
    which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
    you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..

    Okay, now is the time for you to explain why Jesus words here do not mean what they say.

    Show us how to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 5 months ago

    We are taught in scripture that the one who denies that Jesus is the son of God is of the Antichrist spirit.

    1 John 2:22
    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.

    You see, if you deny the son, then you have to deny that God is a Father also.

    Islam for example…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 5 months ago

    1 John 2:22
    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.

    You see, if you deny the son, then you have to deny that God is a Father also.

    Islam for example blatantly proclaims that Allah (God) has no son. This would by biblical standards make that of the Antichrist…[Read more]

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    We are taught in scripture that the one who denies that Jesus is the son of God is of the Antichrist spirit.

    1 John 2:22
    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the

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    Perhaps the strategy is to fill the world with lying wonders and deceptions, so when real miracles are done, or real signs from God happen, people will be hard hearted and think it is just another fake event.

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    “No man has seen God at any time; The Only Begotten God Who is in the bosom of The Father, he has declared him.” – Aramaic Bible

    DavidL, you lack diligence in accurately handling the word of truth. We need to work harder than a quote from one translation especially when translations differ. We need to go into the original or older languages oursel…[Read more]

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    “No man has seen God at any time; The Only Begotten God Who is in the bosom of The Father, he has declared him.” – Aramaic Bible

    DavidL, you lack diligence in accurately handling the word of truth. We need to work harder than a quote from one translation especially when translations differ. We need to go into the original or older languages oursel…[Read more]

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    What’s funny is the actual image you use of Jesus, the image itself is false and is the image of a Pope’s son

    Bod, who are you talking to? No one here thinks that is the image of Jesus and no one has suggested it or even hinted at it.

    Are you talking to yourself, because you are not talking to me or anyone else who comes here as far as I kno…[Read more]

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    In this topic @DavidL, videos holds no weight if the idea is contrary to scripture.

    We want to see it in scripture before we even consider the possibility that it could be correct.

    Scripture says that for us, there is one God the Father.

    We need proof that this is wrong.

    Repetition of a lie, doesn’t magically make it true after a…[Read more]

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    Lake Wakatipu New Zealand

    For the LORD is a great God And a great King above all gods,

    In whose hand are the depths of the earth, The peaks of the mountains are His also.

    The sea is His, for it was He who made it, And His hands formed the dry land.…

     

    Lake Wakatipu, New Zealand

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    Lake Wakatipu New Zealand

    For the LORD is a great God And a great King above all gods,

    In whose hand are the depths of the earth, The peaks of the mountains are His also.

    The sea is His, for it was He who made it, And His hands formed the dry land.…

     

    Lake Wakatipu, New Zealand

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