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Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
lies – because, like all cult teaching, you twist Scripture to promote your own false ideas..
So how is this clear passage of scripture twisted? We take it at face value. To see it as the Trinity or to not contradict the Trinity requires much twisting.
Jesus said: “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus C…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
While you continue to rely on doctrine…
DavidL. Are you aware how important doctrine is?
And you advocate relying on a man-made third-century doctrine instead?
I think not.
2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
True faith is based on the revelation of Jesus Christ
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven”.
Okay I believe that and thus because I believe it with all my heart and mind, then…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago
But did the Word that did exist, come in the flesh to live amongst us?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
But can humans have God without the son. Not that God exists without the son.
Yes humans can have God because God willed it that the son would come into the world at the right time.
If he was not going to rescue man, then no, no one could have God throughout history.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago
Hi t8,
Yes Jesus Christ is.
The vessel Jesus of Nazareth? no.Oh okay. If the Word became flesh, then did the Word become Jesus of Nazareth or not
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Everyone knows that Jesus is the Son of the Living God…
Okay, so if he is God, then he is the son of himself?
Or is he the son of the other god?
Or what?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Yes Nick, we both missed the part where Peter said that Jesus was God.
DavidL, kindly point it out to us.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is it okay for a Christian to swear? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
BTW, we should stick to the topic and not diverge too much. There are many topics devoted to the Trinity vs the one true God elsewhere.
🙂
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is it okay for a Christian to swear? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
You are not happy that eternal life is to know the only true God AND his son Jesus Christ?
John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.I am happy to teach this. If people are offended about the Father being the one true God and Jesus is the son of the one true God and the one…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago
Hi,
Note how the Word is from the beginning till the end.
Thus Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.Hi KW,
Yes that is what I was saying.
The Word is the Son.
Yesterday today and forever.Great Nick. I see you have had a change of heart, or that you have made yourself understood while I misunderstood your earlier…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago
You rely on Scripture as much as the Pharisees did – and you’re just as blind..
It’s obvious you cannot have the Father without the Son or the Spirit..
Let go of your pet arguments on third century doctrine..
And receive the pure Word of Scripture..
It’s that simple.Right, so if I add the Trinity Doctrine in and use that as the standard by whic…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago
You rely on Scripture as much as the Pharisees did – and you’re just as blind..
It’s obvious you cannot have the Father without the Son or the Spirit..
Let go of your pet arguments on third century doctrine..
And receive the pure Word of Scripture..
It’s that simple.Right, so if I add the Trinity Doctrine in and use that as the standard by whic…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Feedback on 'Testing the Trinity' in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 11 years, 4 months ago
DavidL, Nick is right here. Feel free to join us. We believe that there is one God the Father. This is the truth.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago
Simplicity in Christ is dependence on the Spirit – rather than on your own philosophical doctrines t8..which may seem to make more sense to your natural thinking – but in fact they actually fly in the face of what the Holy Spirit reveals of Christ through the Scriptures.
But here is the thing. You are the one promoting a philosophical doctrine tha…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago
Simplicity in Christ is dependence on the Spirit – rather than on your own philosophical doctrines t8..which may seem to make more sense to your natural thinking – but in fact they actually fly in the face of what the Holy Spirit reveals of Christ through the Scriptures.
But here is the thing. You are the one promoting a philosophical doc…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago
so you agree the Three are One..
is it just the word ‘TRINITY’ you have a problem with..?Clearly DavidL, you didn’t read Nick’s post properly or you lack understanding.
Either way, you need to be better than that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 4 months ago
Simplicity in Christ is dependence on the Spirit – rather than on your own philosophical doctrines t8..which may seem to make more sense to your natural thinking – but in fact they actually fly in the face of what the Holy Spirit reveals of Christ through the Scriptures.
But here is the thing. You are the one promoting a philosophical doctrine tha…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
I have kept it very simple..
You cannot have the Father without the Son or the Spirit..
The Three are One in Unity – (Tri-Unity)
As revealed in Scripture.Put it another way.
You cannot have God without his son.
This is true, but you would have to deny that because the one true God is not exclusively the Father to you.
How come you do not s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Can you have the Father without the Son or the Holy Spirit..?
Did the disciples have the spirit when they walked with Jesus Christ?
I am not denying the importance of the Spirit of God, but do pose this question to you.
Yes we come to God through his son. And yes we are one with God by his spirit.
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