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Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
I don’t believe he has a point at all. Yes he would if the word was only ever applied to God legitimately.
This application of the word ‘worship/honour’ as being only applied to God is a popular Pentecostal teaching, but does it stand when you test it.
The word ‘worship’ in scripture is used not only of God, but legitimately of men too. Check i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
I don’t believe he has a point at all. Yes he would if the word was only ever applied to God legitimately.
This application of the word ‘worship/honour’ as being only applied to God is a popular Pentecostal teaching, but does it stand when you test it.
The word ‘worship’ in scripture is used not only of God, but legitimately of men too. Check i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mystery of the Jews in the forum Prophecy 11 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 4 months ago
ED J,
The reason you see this is because you have a sense of self-importance.
Sure anyone of us could have pre-existed and had our memories wiped (emptying oursleves) before we were born. We just do not have all the facts in front of us now.
But to see yourself because of the number 54 or whatever it was and because it looks like ED in English,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 4 months ago
ED J,
The reason you see this is because you have a sense of self-importance.
Sure anyone of us could have pre-existed and had our memories wiped (emptying oursleves) before we were born. We just do not have all the facts in front of us now.
But to see yourself because of the number 54 or whatever it was and because it looks like ED in English,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
It’s a matter of worshiping a greater and lesser god then. If you do that does that make you a polytheist? Oh of course not according to you. Am I right?
Let me repeat it and hopefully this time you pay attention.
I worship the Father as God.
I worship Jesus as the son of God.
I do not worship the Father as the Son nor the Son as God.
The Fa…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
It’s a matter of worshiping a greater and lesser god then. If you do that does that make you a polytheist? Oh of course not according to you. Am I right?
Let me repeat it and hopefully this time you pay attention.
I worship the Father as God.
I worship Jesus as the son of God.
I do not worship the Father as the Son and the Son as God.
No, t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
T8, as for what Kerwin typed or mistyped it works the same way according to basic logic. He got it right.
Nonsense. If two are fully God, then that is one who is 100% God and another who is 100% God. That is two Gods.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Do you worship the Son of God T8? If so then you’re guilty of worshiping the”second God” as blessed Origen called him.And maybe you are a polytheist too.
Nonsense. You do not know what you are talking about.
Worshipping Jesus as the son of God does not mean he is God.
The word worship is the same word honour and bow down. It is used legit…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
AndrewAD. The reason you are confused is you over analyse things.
The simple explanation is Kerwin mistyped, but we await his reply.
As for the whole Trinity debate being confusing, I agree it is. But:
Once you remove the Trinity everything clears up.
The Father is the one true God and Jesus his son is simple for anyone to comprehend. There is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
The only way Jesus can be the Son of God is if there are two God and if there is two Gods then you have polytheism.
Chances are that Kerwin mistyped. I think he meant to say:
The only way Jesus can be God is if there are two God and if there is two Gods then you have polytheism.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
There is no confusion. God begat a son. How hard is that to grasp.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Jesus is worshipped as the son of God and the Lamb of God. The Father is worshipped as God.
The text ‘The Throne of God and of the Lamb’ speaks of two. i.e., God and the Lamb.
In English, something AND something means two. not one.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Jesus is worshipped as the son of God and the Lamb of God. The Father is worshipped as God.
The text ‘The Throne of God and of the Lamb’ speaks of two. i.e., God and the Lamb.
In English ‘AND’ something AND something means two.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
For the purpose of willingly aligning with truth.
Of those not willing, they will confess it eventually, not because they are prodded, but because by then it will be self-evident.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
For the purpose of willingly aligning with truth.
Of those not willing, they will confess it eventually, not because they are prodded, but because by then it will be self-evident by then.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
For the purpose of willingly aligning with truth.
Of those not willing, they will confess it eventually, not because they are prodded till they confess, but because by then it will be self-evident.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
For the purpose of aligning with truth and willingly.
Of those not willing, they will confess it eventually, not because they are prodded till they confess, but because by then it will be self-evident.
Proclaimer started the topic Leviticus 23:40 in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago

On the first day you are to take branches from luxuriant trees—from palms, willows and other leafy trees—and rejoice before the Lord your God for seven days.
Palm trees, Tonga, OceaniaProclaimer started the topic Leviticus 23:40 in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 4 months ago

On the first day you are to take branches from luxuriant trees—from palms, willows and other leafy trees—and rejoice before the Lord your God for seven days.
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