By using the term “active living force”, I pretty much meant the same thing as you then said, but you said it better: the manifestation of God in his creation.

I do want to point out that the Greek words translated “holy spirit” are neuter. This means that it’s not a “person” of some kind of trinity. It isn’t quite an “it” either, since it is…

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The Trinity has been hotly debate for over a decade in these forums, but the Trinitarians have basically ran off. There are still a couple who visit from time to time, and we hear the same old arguments from them, but so far they have not been able to explain the scriptures we give them. When it comes down to it, they say we use logic…[Read more]

@mstrainjr

The Trinity has been hotly debate for over a decade in these forums, but the Trinitarians have basically ran off. There are still a couple who visit from time to time, and we hear the same old arguments from them, but so far they have not been able to explain the scriptures we give them. When it comes down to it, they say we use logic…[Read more]

@mstrainjr

The Trinity has been hotly debate for over a decade in these forums, but the Trinitarians have basically ran off. There are still a couple who visit from time to time, and we hear the same old arguments from them, but so far they have not been able to explain the scriptures we give them. When it comes down to it, they say we use logic…[Read more]

What do you think?

https://youtu.be/Y8Q0MMHwx4k

The wicked go to hell first whatever you decide to call that place. Feel free to look it up in a concordance, but looks like you have already done that. Then that first place for the wicked is put into the Lake of Fire to go through the second death.

The heavens, earth, and wicked are burned in the same fire, and behold a new heavens and a new…[Read more]

The wicked go to hell first whatever you decide to call that place, (feel free to look it up in a concordance), and then that first place for the wicked is put into the Lake of Fire to go through the second death.

The heavens, earth, and wicked are burned in the same fire, and behold a new heavens and a new earth where sin has never dwelt. God…[Read more]

Okay we have a deal with the Iranian nuclear program. The Israeli  government is not happy about it.

What will they do about it. We know when Israel has been in situations where they believe they are being threatened that they react swiftly and strongly.

Surely they will not just sit there and allow Iran to go ahead with the p…[Read more]

but rather fear him who is able to destroy both body and soul in Gehenna”

Destruction of the soul by God in Gehenna right?

So are you saying that the soul is restored for the purpose of suffering eternally thereafter?

Or is it saying that those who go to Hell will eventually be thrown into the Lake of Fire where they will be destroyed.

The la…[Read more]

but rather fear him who is able to destroy both body and soul in Gehenna”

Destruction of the soul by Godin Gehenna?

Terrorism has come to mean persons or groups who create terror for an ideology of some kind. But the word may have to have to take on the wider meaning you say it has if they want to call ISIS terrorists as they have a self-declared state. If their state becomes recognised in years to come, they would not be considered terrorists by the usual definition.

Because that fire results in the destruction of ungodly men. Are they undestroyed later on and given eternal life, so they can endure the flame with no end?

908Because that fire results in the destruction of ungodly men. Are they undestroyed later on and given eternal life, so they can endure the flame with no end?

To be consistent across all scripture that teaches destruction of the wicked, these kinds of descriptions can equally mean that the fire (destruction) is eternal or permanent. It could also turn out that the fire that destroys the wicked, the earth, cosmos, could be eternal and left as a reminder. But that is no indication that the wicked, the…[Read more]

To be consistent across all scripture that teaches destruction of the wicked, these kinds of descriptions can equally mean that the fire (destruction) is eternal or permanent. It could also turn out that the fire that destroys the wicked, the earth, cosmos, could be eternal and left as a reminder. But that is no indication that the wicked, the…[Read more]

To be consistent across all scripture that teaches destruction of the wicked, these kinds of descriptions can equally mean that the fire (destruction) is eternal or permanent. It could also turn out that the fire that destroys the wicked, the earth, cosmos, could be eternal and left as a reminder. But that is no indication that the wicked, the…[Read more]

To be consistent across all scripture that teaches destruction of the wicked, these kinds of descriptions can equally mean that the fire (destruction) is eternal or permanent. It could turn out that the fire that destroys the wicked, the earth, cosmos, could be eternal and left as a reminder. But that is no indication that the wicked, the earth,…[Read more]

Yes some will be beaten with more stripes so to speak.

It doesn’t say that they will never be destroyed and we know from many other scriptures that the wicked will indeed be destroyed. That is what we know, but cannot provide the exact details of when or whether some are destroyed instantly or if there are varying times before destruction happens…[Read more]