I agree. But the word ‘fathered’ has other meanings. I can’t think of a better word to use in the opening post though.

As for the Holy Spirit, my belief is that God is holy and God is spirit. Thus he can legitimately be described as a Holy Spirit and more accurately as the Holy Spirit and not just one of many.

1 Peter 1:16
for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”

John 4:24
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Good stuff wilsunphi. I then just need a word that describes the Holy Spirit as replacing a natural father in the conception of the messiah. I chose fathered, but as you point out it can mean a number of things.

I agree that he is sitting at the right-hand of God in Heaven, but are you also saying that he has already come in the clouds?

So Millennium hasn’t begun, but Christ has returned?

Hi wilsunphi.

Yes I can see your point about the word fathered, because to father someone can mean to treat with the protective care associated with a father  or assign the paternity of a child. (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/father)

Do you have a suggestion as to what word I could use?

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Hi wilsunphi.

Yes I can see your point about the word fathered, because to father someone doesn’t always make you the Father.

Do you have a suggestion as to what word I could use?

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@wilsunphi

Yes I upgraded the site partially with some help from code that I was able to purchase. But there is a speed issue when lots of people are logged on at the same time. I am working through these issues one at ta time to get the site faster.

terraicca, if we are to live by either the spirit or the flesh and can be led by either, then what part of us exactly can be led by the Spirit or by the flesh if we are only composed of spirit and flesh? Is the spirit led by itself and if the flesh dominates our life, then is the spirit led by the flesh? Or what?

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When does the Millennial reign start in your view then? The past, now, later?

the spirit soul in that flesh does not need any of those items except one THE FLESH BODY for without it the soul is dead (sleeps)

The spirit gives the soul life and the living soul animates the body. A body without a soul is a hunk of dad flesh. A soul without the spirit is not a living soul.

@kerwin

t8,
And if having the nature of God and then emptying himself and taking flesh makes him a deceiver, then he must be a deceiver if what you say is correct.
Romans 1:4 testifies that Jesus is the Son of God, as of the Spirit and that was declared with power by his resurrection from the dead.
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@kerwin

t8,
And if having the nature of God and then emptying himself and taking flesh makes him a deceiver, then he must be a deceiver if what you say is correct.
Romans 1:4 testifies that Jesus is the Son of God, as of the Spirit and that was declared with power by his resurrection from the dead.
Romans 1:3 testifies that Jesus Christ is the Son…

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t8,

And if having the nature of God and then emptying himself and taking flesh makes him a deceiver, then he must be a deceiver if what you say is correct.
Romans 1:4 testifies that Jesus is the Son of God, as of the Spirit and that was declared with power by his resurrection from the dead.
Romans 1:3 testifies that Jesus Christ is the Son of the…

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Paul did not say that his words are to the effect that there is a soulish body and a Spiritual body. It equivalent to saying there is a godless body and a godly body. He is using a OT teaching that many English language bible obscure because that translate the Hebrew and Greek words that are close synonyms of soul to other words but soul.
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The stone is yet to strike the statue IMO, but when it does, the Kingdom will grow, perhaps during the Millennial reign.

I would say the stone strikes when the kingdoms of the world are replaced by the Kingdom of God.

At the moment, the Kingdom is within us or among us. But it doesn’t rule the planet and nations.

Of course Terr. I just loved his innocent question though.