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    David, it doesn’t matter how you perceive that the world is getting better. It is not for most people. It is for you and me that is true. Our privileged lives in this world are the minority.

    In the past there have been empires to rule the masses as there are today. But most people were peasants working the land. Yes people still died violently as…[Read more]

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    Is this topic still about was God manifest in the flesh or has it degraded to a level similar to old ladies bickering?

    Cast your pride aside and love one another for love is evidence of the new birth. If you cannot love, then you cannot be born of God.

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    True Nick. But we also need to heed this. The evidence of our new birth is our love for one another because God is love. If we do not love, we cannot know God.

    1 John 4:8
    Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

    We…[Read more]

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    True Nick. But we also need to heed this. The evidence of our new birth is our love for one another because God is love. If we do not love, we cannot know God.

    1 John 4:8
    Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

    We…[Read more]

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    There are lots of fires.

    Yes there are.

    By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    But my point stands, that it is the same thing, ‘fire’ which destroys both the Heavens and Earth, as well as the ungodly.

    The point was made originally to show that the…[Read more]

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    Hi Shayne,

    Unless you are born again you cannot see the kingdom.

    When the tares are removed those in the kingdom will shine like the sun.

    True Nick. And just as important, if we have not love, then we likewise do not the Spirit that you speak of.

    1 John 4:8
    Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born…[Read more]

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    Hi Shayne,

    Unless you are born again you cannot see the kingdom.

    When the tares are removed those in the kingdom will shine like the sun.

    True Nick. And just as important, if we have not love, then we likewise do not the Spirit that you speak of.

    1 John 4:8
    Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born…[Read more]

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    In many scriptures, the fire is a purifying means  .  The dross is to be burned til the pure element is that which is the end result !!!   For the elect at this time, the fire  purifies them  to the elemental  pure gold !!

    I say to you that humanity in general  shall indeed  be purified, in accordance  with the scriptures,  so that the dross sha…

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    Hi t8,

    The fires on earth come before the judgement.

    Only the dead who are not in the kingdom are judged in the white throne judgement.

    So two fires then Nick?

    One for the heavens and the earth, and the other for the white throne judgement of the wicked?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 11 months ago

    When the scripture uses the Greek term for God ho theos, it refers to the true God, but when it uses the term theos, without the article ho, it refers not to the God, but to his most ancient Logos (Somn. 1.229-230).
    He is speaking of the Koine Greek OT but it can be seen in John 1c that John is claiming the same thing.

    If he called them gods to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 11 months ago

    When the scripture uses the Greek term for God ho theos, it refers to the true God, but when it uses the term theos, without the article ho, it refers not to the God, but to his most ancient Logos (Somn. 1.229-230).
    He is speaking of the Koine Greek OT but it can be seen in John 1c that John is claiming the same thing.

    If he called them gods to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 11 months ago

    When the scripture uses the Greek term for God ho theos, it refers to the true God, but when it uses the term theos, without the article ho, it refers not to the God, but to his most ancient Logos (Somn. 1.229-230).
    He is speaking of the Koine Greek OT but it can be seen in John 1c that John is claiming the same thing.

    If he called them gods to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 11 months ago

    That choice of words imply he had flesh before he came.

    It does to you because you have applied your own understanding to it.

    What if “He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh…” actually said:

    He existed in the USA, denied his citizenship, and came to England.

    I suppose if you believed he never existed in the USA, t…[Read more]

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    What salvation. The one written for the saved?

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    t8,

    Where is it written that salvation is a free gift?

    Does that idea fit with Jesus’ words that strive to enter the narrow gate in Luke 13:24?

    Do you not know that we have been purchased for a price that is life for life. Salvation is a gift, you cannot earn salvation because the soul that sins will die. Even if you didn’t sin starting from t…[Read more]

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    Agreed. But how did you come to God if the Bible has no instruction on being saved for the sinner?
    From what book did you receive the true message of salvation?
    Or perhaps it was an oral tradition that was passed down?

    Or maybe that message came from the scriptures itself, the ones that were written for the saved?

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    Agreed. But how did you come to God if the Bible has no instruction on being saved for the sinner?
    From what book did you receive the true message of salvation?
    Or perhaps it an oral tradition that was passed down?

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    Agreed. But how did you come to God if the Bible has no instruction on being saved for the sinner?
    From what book did you receive the true message of salvation?
    Or was it an oral tradition that was passed down?

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    Hi t8,

    A man sowed the seed and some fell on fertile ground and it sprouted.

    By the grace of God some respond.

    Then if they obey they can eat of the letters to the saved and benefit.

    Agreed. But how did you come to God if the Bible has no instruction on being saved for the sinner?
    From what book did you receive the true message of…[Read more]

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    t8,

    Where is it written that salvation is a free gift?

    Does that idea fit with Jesus’ words that strive to enter the narrow gate in Luke 13:24?

    Do you not know that we have been purchased for a price that is life for life. Salvation is a gift, you cannot earn salvation because the soul that sins will die. Even if you didn’t sin starting from t…[Read more]

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