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Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 8 months ago
So tell us when Jesus was anointed prior to the Jordan.
Show us the evidence of that anointing as an infant and in the first 30 years of his life.
If you deny the ANOINTING at the Jordan perhaps you are the one clinging to antichrist teaching?
First off, no one is denying the spirit coming on Jesus at the Jordan. That is the first mistake you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
The Spirit of Christ proceeded forth and came from God. jn8.42
If you knew the voice of the Spirit you would know this.
Well I agree that all spirits come from the Father who is God. Thus by your own testimony then, I know the voice of the Spirit.
However. the scripture you quote are the words of Jesus. And you believe he is the flesh…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 8 months ago
I won’t go to a church which believes in eternal conscious torment, which narrows my options (in the end) to virtually zero. If someone believes in eternal conscious torment, they don’t know God properly, and that is my conviction.
I tend to agree. What it proves to me is that most ignore the myriad of scriptures that confirm that the wicked wil…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t,
As usual you confuse the natural with the spitiual.
Get over the flesh, It contributes nothing.
You seem to infer that Jesus is flesh and the Word is Christ.
Did Jesus contribute nothing?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi ED,
God is spirit.
The Spirit of Christ proceeded forth and came from God.
In the beginning the Word was with God and was God.
Was Jesus a living being?
Was the spirit of Christ alive?If so, you seem to infer that two beings or living things merged into one. If so, which one is alive now? Jesus or Christ? Or is he two living identities, a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Views on the Gog Magog war in the forum Prophecy 10 years, 8 months ago
Um, where have you proven me wrong?
Um, where did I say that to you?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Does the "Whole Earth" mean the "planet" in scripture? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 8 months ago
On the subject of species, I think the Bible mentions ‘kinds’, not ‘species’. So it is possible that from one pair of cats, came all cat species. The idea that Noah took with him every cat species on Earth is well let’s say, difficult for many to accept. Then add to that every dog species, every ant species, every marsupial, bat, lemur, crocodile,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Does the "Whole Earth" mean the "planet" in scripture? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 8 months ago
Perhaps I could have been more diplomatic and said “do not trust the conclusions of science”.
Kerwin. When a person posts a video with no accompanying text, then how can you make a judgement on the person’s view of the video. The forums here are for holding firmly to the truth, encouraging by sound doctrine, & refuting those who oppose it, as we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Don’t you believe both Adam and Eve were created in the form of God as the form and image are synonyms?
The verse in question is talking about nature/form of God.
So no, I do not believe that God is in the form of man or man in the form of God.
God’s form is spirit. He has divine nature.
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider e…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Don’t you believe both Adam and Eve were created in the form of God as the form and image are synonyms?
The verse in question is talking about nature/form of God.
So no, I do not believe that God is in the form of man or man in the form of God.
God’s form is spirit. He has divine nature.
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider e…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
The Holy Spirit is not God??
Again, you misunderstand. It is not me that teaches this. I am talking about you Nick. Let’s look at the points you believe in so we can see the contradiction.
You believe that both the Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit.
You believe that the Father is God.
You believe that Jesus Christ is NOT God.
So…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
The Holy Spirit is not God??
Again, you misunderstand. It is not me that teaches this. I am talking about you Nick. Let’s look at the points you believe in so we can see the contradiction.
You believe that both the Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit.
You believe that the Father is God.
You believe that Jesus Christ is NOT God.
So…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
The Holy Spirit is not God??
Again, you misunderstand. It is not me that teaches this. I am talking about you Nick. Let’s look at the points you believe in so we can see the contradiction.
You believe that both the Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit.
You believe that the Father is God.
You believe that Jesus is NOT God.
So you…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi ED,
The Spirit is one and Holy
be it of the Father or the Son
Hi Nick.
Perhaps you need to apologise to Lightenup now that you are on the same page has her as to the Spirit being both the Father and the Son.
The only area you appear to disagree with her is that she thinks Jesus is God because he is the Holy Spirit.
So you must hold that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
You cannot both believe that God gave Jesus God’s Spirit and believe Jesus is God. The two are in conflict and so it is like believing you live by the Spirit at the same time you live the flesh.
Correct. But you can believe that the Divine gave or shares divine nature. You can believe that from the one Spirit are all spirits. You can believe t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
You cannot both believe that God gave Jesus God’s Spirit and believe Jesus is God. The two are in conflict and so it is like believing you live by the Spirit at the same time you live the flesh.
Correct. But you can believe that the Divine gave or shares divine nature. You can believe that from the one Spirit are all spirits. You can believe t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
kerwin, I have never taught that Jesus is an angelic being. Whether he is or not, I have not taught that.
What I teach is that he existed in the form of God, and then came in the flesh, and is now in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.
What was he like before he came in the flesh I am not exactly sure. Was he a spirit like an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
God does not tell us when the Spirit is speaking through Jesus.
You need to become spiritually aware.
Can you tell?
lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?
If not can you clarify what you believe .
This is a new teaching .
Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?
If not can you clarify what you believe .
This is a new teaching .
Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is…[Read more]
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