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    Um, where have you proven me wrong?

    Um, where did I say that to you?

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    On the subject of species, I think the Bible mentions ‘kinds’, not ‘species’. So it is possible that from one pair of cats, came all cat species. The idea that Noah took with him every cat species on Earth is well let’s say, difficult for many to accept. Then add to that every dog species, every ant species, every marsupial, bat, lemur, crocodile,…[Read more]

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    Perhaps I could have been more diplomatic and said “do not trust the conclusions of science”.

    Kerwin. When a person posts a video with no accompanying text, then how can you make a judgement on the person’s view of the video.  The forums here are for holding firmly to the truth, encouraging by sound doctrine, & refuting those who oppose it, as we…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Don’t you believe both Adam and Eve were created in the form of God as the form and image are synonyms?

    The verse in question is talking about nature/form of God.

    So no, I do not believe that God is in the form of man or man in the form of God.

    God’s form is spirit. He has divine nature.

    Who, being in very nature God, did not consider e…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Don’t you believe both Adam and Eve were created in the form of God as the form and image are synonyms?

    The verse in question is talking about nature/form of God.

    So no, I do not believe that God is in the form of man or man in the form of God.

    God’s form is spirit. He has divine nature.

    who, existing in the form of God, did not consider e…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    The Holy Spirit is not God??

    Again, you misunderstand. It is not me that teaches this. I am talking about you Nick. Let’s look at the points you believe in so we can see the contradiction.

    You believe that both the Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit.
    You believe that the Father is God.
    You believe that Jesus Christ is NOT God.
    So…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    The Holy Spirit is not God??

    Again, you misunderstand. It is not me that teaches this. I am talking about you Nick. Let’s look at the points you believe in so we can see the contradiction.

    You believe that both the Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit.
    You believe that the Father is God.
    You believe that Jesus Christ is NOT God.
    So…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    The Holy Spirit is not God??

    Again, you misunderstand. It is not me that teaches this. I am talking about you Nick. Let’s look at the points you believe in so we can see the contradiction.

    You believe that both the Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit.
    You believe that the Father is God.
    You believe that Jesus is NOT God.
    So you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi ED,

    The Spirit is one and Holy

    be it of the Father or the Son

    Hi Nick.

    Perhaps you need to apologise to Lightenup now that you are on the same page has her as to the Spirit being both the Father and the Son.

    The only area you appear to disagree with her is that she thinks Jesus is God because he is the Holy Spirit.

    So you must hold that…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    You cannot both believe that God gave Jesus God’s Spirit and believe Jesus is God. The two are in conflict and so it is like believing you live by the Spirit at the same time you live the flesh.

    Correct. But you can believe that the Divine gave or shares divine nature. You can believe that from the one Spirit are all spirits. You can believe t…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    You cannot both believe that God gave Jesus God’s Spirit and believe Jesus is God. The two are in conflict and so it is like believing you live by the Spirit at the same time you live the flesh.

    Correct. But you can believe that the Divine gave or shares divine nature. You can believe that from the one Spirit are all spirits. You can believe t…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    kerwin, I have never taught that Jesus is an angelic being. Whether he is or not, I have not taught that.

    What I teach is that he existed in the form of God, and then came in the flesh, and is now in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.

    What was he like before he came in the flesh I am not exactly sure. Was he a spirit like an…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    God does not tell us when the Spirit is speaking through Jesus.

    You need to become spiritually aware.

    Can you tell?

    lol.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?

    If not can you clarify what you believe .

    This is a new teaching .

    Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is not…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?

    If not can you clarify what you believe .

    This is a new teaching .

    Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    Is it true that you believe that Jesus was an angelic being dressed in flesh?

    If not can you clarify what you believe .

    This is a new teaching .

    Show me where I have taught that, and I will explain what I have written. You obviously misunderstand. Otherwise speculating that I believe that Jesus was an angel (Cherub/Seraph/etc) is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    @DannyDabbs

    Hi @ all!

    The Gnostic occultists believed that Jesus was not the Christ, but Christ came down on him at his baptism.

    The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus came in the flesh and later became the Christ.
    1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.

    Jesus is…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    @Danny Dabbs

    Hi @ all!

    The Gnostic occultists believed that Jesus was not the Christ, but Christ came down on him at his baptism.

    The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus came in the flesh and later became the Christ.
    1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.

    Jesus is…

    [Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi ED,

    The most popular understandings are to say that Jesus

    Is God

    Is an angelic being

    Is a pre existent man

    But we know none of them are true.

    He is a man conceived in Mary and anointed by God as the prophets were but more so who was greatly used by God and we can follow him.

    You missed out, the Word that was with God became flesh.

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    You can deny Jesus’s origins all you like guys, but it doesn’t wash with me. He existed in the form of God then came in the flesh as one of us so we can be one of him.

    Gene, you are always going on about that he is no different to us and is one of us and anything else is divisive. But the truth of the matter is he came in flesh and one day we…[Read more]

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