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    Hi t8,

    Si you do not believe Jesus was aman anointed by God? Acts 10

    A ridiculous question Nick. I do not teach that anywhere. If so, feel free to quote. Otherwise better to stay silent and focus on what I actually do say and believe. Resist those negative judgemental urges.

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    Hi t8,

    Si you do not believe Jesus was aman anointed by God? Acts 10

    A ridiculous question Nick. I do not teach that anywhere. If so, feel free to quote. Otherwise better to stay silent and focus on what I actually do say and believe.

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    I do not see Islam as any less Christians as Trinitarians and it is known Christian Rome persecuted Jewish Christian and other Christians long before Islam appeared on the seen.

    I agree. One point of difference regarding confession. Islam outright denies Jesus as the son of God, thus qualifying as coming from the Antichrist spirit according to…[Read more]

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    Amen t8. I mostly agree with your post above, (apart from the last paragraph – but you did say “could”, so “could” is how I would see it too).

    Yes, ‘could’. I nearly always say ‘could’ when speaking of prophecy. Rarely if ever, do I make a statement as to the absoluteness of something in the future happening in a certain way.

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    Not just the American Terr and some perhaps not the American at all. Unless you adhere to certain conspiracy theories.

    As for multiculturalism. America is a land of immigrants. So it is multi-cultural. What is the point you are making?

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    Probably real reactions.

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    Hi T8,

    The testimony of John the Baptist is this

    Jn 3.34
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God.
    Do you not believe this?

    Yes. Do you believe that Jesus spoke the words of God, or was it only Jesus Christ who was born at the Jordan according to you.

    God sent his son into this world. The son came as a baby like us. He was born the son…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    The testimony of John the Baptist is this

    Jn 3.34
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God.
    Do you not believe this?

    Yes. Do you believe that Jesus spoke the words of God, or was it only Jesus Christ who was born at the Jordan according to you.

    God sent his son into this world. The son came a baby like us. He was born the son and…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    The testimony of John the Baptist is this

    Jn 3.34
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God.
    Do you not believe this?

    Yes. Do you believe that Jesus spoke the words of God, or was it only Jesus Christ who was born at the Jordan according to you.

    God sent his son into this world. The son came a baby like us. He was born the son and…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    The testimony of John the Baptist is this

    Jn 3.34
    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God.
    Do you not believe this?

    Yes. Do you believe that Jesus spoke the words of God, or was it only Jesus Christ who was born at the Jordan according to you.

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    Hi t8,

    Why do you deny the anointing at the Jordan?

    Is that not antichrist by definition?

    What is antichrist is denying that Jesus is the Christ. You deny that Jesus is the Christ. You say that Jesus Christ is the Christ, but that Jesus wasn’t.

    And who is denying that he was not anointed at the Jordan. Not me. What is clear is that you deny he…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    The only possibility I can think of is that you think God inspired his words

    but they were from him?

    Yes Nick. When scripture says “Jesus said…”, it means that Jesus said it.

    We too can speak the Word of God, but the flesh often gets in the way in our case.

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    @NickHassan

    So tell us when Jesus was anointed prior to the Jordan.

    Show us the evidence of that anointing as an infant and in the first 30 years of his life.

    If you deny the ANOINTING at the Jordan perhaps you are the one clinging to antichrist teaching?

    First off, no one is denying the spirit coming on Jesus at the Jordan. That is the first…[Read more]

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    @NickHassan

    So tell us when Jesus was anointed prior to the Jordan.

    Show us the evidence of that anointing as an infant and in the first 30 years of his life.

    If you deny the ANOINTING at the Jordan perhaps you are the one clinging to antichrist teaching?

    First off, no one is denying the spirit coming on Jesus at the Jordan. That is the first…[Read more]

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    @NickHassan

    So tell us when Jesus was anointed prior to the Jordan.

    Show us the evidence of that anointing as an infant and in the first 30 years of his life.

    If you deny the ANOINTING at the Jordan perhaps you are the one clinging to antichrist teaching?

    First off, no one is denying the spirit coming on Jesus at the Jordan. That is the first…[Read more]

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    So tell us when Jesus was anointed prior to the Jordan.

    Show us the evidence of that anointing as an infant and in the first 30 years of his life.

    If you deny the ANOINTING at the Jordan perhaps you are the one clinging to antichrist teaching?

    First off, no one is denying the spirit coming on Jesus at the Jordan. That is the first mistake you…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    The Spirit of Christ proceeded forth and came from God. jn8.42

    If you knew the voice of the Spirit you would know this.

    Well I agree that all spirits come from the Father who is God. Thus by your own testimony then, I know the voice of the Spirit.

    However. the scripture you quote are the words of Jesus. And you believe he is the flesh…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    I won’t go to a church which believes in eternal conscious torment, which narrows my options (in the end) to virtually zero. If someone believes in eternal conscious torment, they don’t know God properly, and that is my conviction.

    I tend to agree. What it proves to me is that most ignore the myriad of scriptures that confirm that the wicked wil…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t,

    As usual you confuse the natural with the spitiual.

    Get over the flesh, It contributes nothing.

    You seem to infer that Jesus is flesh and the Word is Christ.

    Did Jesus contribute nothing?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi ED,

    God is spirit.

    The Spirit of Christ proceeded forth and came from God.

    In the beginning the Word was with God and was God.

    Was Jesus a living being?
    Was the spirit of Christ alive?

    If so, you seem to infer that two beings or living things merged into one. If so, which one is alive now? Jesus or Christ? Or is he two living identities, a…[Read more]

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