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Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
Okay, so I can assume then from your post that you truly believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
Then when exactly did he come in the flesh. Was it the Jordan, as a baby in Jerusalem, or what?
BTW, my inquisition if you want to call it that, will not leave you tied to a stake for crucifixion, rather it will be for you to think about and to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
It seems to me that you do not really believe and you teach that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh. Your accusations against me because I teach that Jesus is the Christ at birth and onward coupled with your specific teaching that he was not the Christ from his birth leads me to challenge your teaching. You say that the man became the Christ…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
Hi T8,
Despite the fact that the infant did nothing to reveal the mighty power of God
and was yet even to be named
you cling to the traditional understanding.
If you understanding of what happened at the Jordan invalidates Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh or if it invalidates that Jesus is the Christ, then you need to reevaluate.
Men…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
If you understanding of what happened at the Jordan invalidates Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh or if it invalidates that Jesus is the Christ, then you need to reevaluate.
Men honoured him as the Christ and one was even told by God that he would see him before he died and he saw Jesus as a baby.
Some translations call these men, ‘wise men’.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
Nick, Jesus Christ came in the flesh. When did he come in the flesh? Was it at the Jordan.
I do not deny all those things you say I do. Rather it appears to be a smoke-screen to the real issue. What is that issue? That you teach that Jesus was not the Christ until Jordan.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Where is God exactly? in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 7 months ago
They also did not believe that Jesus was the Christ. They denied that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. They denied he was the son of God. They would naturally deny that he was conceived by the Spirit and Mary. They denied his Father was God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Even demons believe he is the son of God 10 years, 7 months ago
Hi t8,
Jesus is the Christ, the anointed one.
Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?
When did he come in the flesh. His natural birth as a baby, the Jordan, or what?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Even demons believe he is the son of God 10 years, 7 months ago
Hi t8,
Jesus is the Christ, the anointed one.
Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?
When did he come in the flesh. His natural birth as a baby or at the Jordan, or what?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Even demons believe he is the son of God 10 years, 7 months ago
That is a more detailed statement than I am completely confident with. I think it is the goal that the human spirits will become unified in order to be like God’s in true righteousness and holiness but at this time I am only confident to say believers are given God’s very Spirit when they first believe. It is this Spirit that unites them with bot…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proof that Jesus is the messiah in the forum Archaeology & Biblical History 10 years, 7 months ago
I haven’ denied anything. If you think that me believing that Jesus Christ came in the flesh is a denial of that, then you are relying on your own understanding. If you think that me believing that men came to honour the Christ at his birth when he came in the flesh, then you are again relying on your own understanding.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
Please, yes or no to that other question Nick?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
Yes or no to the above Nick?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
What we think Nick is Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Ask yourself when he came in the flesh. Was it the Jordan or in a manger in Jerusalem. You seem to teach that Jesus Christ was born at the Jordan. Is that correct?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
You taught that the anointing at the Jordan was just some sort of public revelation of a previous event did you not?
I taught the following because it is written:
John testified saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. “I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
You taught that the anointing at the Jordan was just some sort of public revelation of a previous event did you not?
I taught the following because it is written:
John testified saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. “I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
You taught that the anointing at the Jordan was just some sort of public revelation of a previous event did you not?
Trust you to think that Nick. This again is absolutely false. I taught the following because it is written:
John testified saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. “I did not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 7 months ago
If you teach that Jesus was born anointed when does scripture show this and what powers did the infant demonstrate?
Listen carefully Nick. I believe that when he came in the flesh, he was Jesus Christ. He was born Jesus Christ and recognised as such. You cannot condemn what I am saying can you?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago
Listen carefully Nick. I believe that he was born the Christ. Jesus is the Christ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
Acknowledge the power of the Spirit.
How is believing that Jesus Christ came in the flesh a denial of the power of the Spirit. It is not. We should not rely on our own understanding.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 7 months ago
But you seem to deny the power of God in him despite the very verse you quote.
Not sure what you mean Nick, but you realise that these continuous accusations are going to have to stop. These forums are moderated to stop unnecessary conflicts. It is a pity that I even have to do that, but not all come here for the best reasons. Please stick to the…[Read more]
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