Be quick to check and slow to accuse.

That is correct. Yes it is possible that your memory is fading. Definitely didn’t say JUST that. I simply pointed out the truth that John was told that the one whom the spirit descended on would be the one. That is written and that is what I referred to.

Just about every Bible in existence says that he was born the messiah and the king of the Jews, as well as the Lord. And he was baptised by John and the Spirit came down upon him visibly to John, showing John that he was truly the messiah.

John prepared the way for him and he then declared that he must decrease while Jesus would increase.

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Amen!

Nick, if you are confused about it all, then denying he was born the Christ to make it clearer for you is not advised.

Just believe the scriptures and pray God gives you the understanding. As soon as you deny scriptures because they are difficult or say the opposite to what you teach, then the conclusions you draw will be wrong until such point…[Read more]

Yes now is the time Nick. Go for it.

Yes now is the time Nick. Go for it. lol.

Did Gene teach you that the rock was hearing the Father?

Yes he has advantages over us, he was born without sin for a start. But he was also baptised in a way that we will not.

“You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”

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Did Gene teach you that the rock was hearing the Father?

Yes he has advantages over us, he was born without sin for a start. But he was also baptised in a way that we will not.

“You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”

So definitely not saying he had it…[Read more]

Nick this is your quote.

“What I mean by that is when he was born, he was rightly recognised as the Christ and the son of God. He was further recognised at John’s baptism. These were all signs that he was and is the Christ. Recognising this does not mean denial of other things. So please do not go down the road that Nick has with me. Spe…

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Nick this is your quote.

“What I mean by that is when he was born, he was rightly recognised as the Christ and the son of God. He was further recognised at John’s baptism. These were all signs that he was and is the Christ. Recognising this does not mean denial of other things. So please do not go down the road that Nick has with me. Spe…

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No Nick that is your invention or take on my view. The Spirit came upon him at the Jordan and Jesus was the Christ at birth. God made him Lord and Christ and he was born Lord and Christ. So he was sent into the world to do that which God made him to be. What came first, the a prophecy uttered by a prophet or the prophet?

I wonder if you could do me a favour Nick. Can we let this topic be about Isaiah 41:18? That is what was intended, but we ended up conversing on a subject that spanned over 5 or more topics. I am trying to tidy up a bit and would prefer what we are talking about be continued in the ‘Is Jesus the Logos’ topic or other relevant topic.

Thanks in advance.

Nick, the Christ was born. God made him both Lord and Christ and the angel declared he was born as such. What comes first, a prophecy uttered by a prophet or the prophet.

Jesus Christ was sent into the world to save sinners. He was born the Christ and acknowledged as the Christ. Also the savior as you say as well as the King of the Jews and the…[Read more]

No you do not need to prove it to me. Do I need to prove to you that I have never denied this or said anything that denies this? I have just given scripture, if that appears to you to deny it, then you need to find the truth in how all these scriptures paint the truth together. Just pray about it. God is good.

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Jesus was made both Lord and Christ. He was born those things and sent into the world to do what those things require. What came first, the utterance of prophecy from a prophet or the prophet?

Nick this is your quote.

“What I mean by that is when he was born, he was rightly recognised as the Christ and the son of God. He was further recognised at John’s baptism. These were all signs that he was and is the Christ. Recognising this does not mean denial of other things. So please do not go down the road that Nick has with me. Spe…

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But who is saying that Nick? You are saying that, not me. Even though you accuse me of saying it. I have never said such a thing.

Jesus was born the Christ, the King of the Jews, the Lord, and savior because God made him those things. He was then sent into the world to do that which he already was.

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But who is saying that Nick? You are saying that, not me. Evne though you accuse me of saying it. I have never said that.

Jesus was born the Christ, the King of the Jews, the Lord, and savior because God made him those things. He was then sent into the world to do that which he already was.

God sent prophets into the world to prophecy. What came…[Read more]

Kerwin, perhaps you are not up to speed with what is being debated. We are not debating any denial from myself that Jesus was baptised at the Jordan and the Spirit descended on him, but Nick and others including yourself (I think) that say Jesus was not born the Christ, the son of God, and the King of Israel.

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