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    No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.

    Your statement doesn’t align with scripture.

    You can point out this or that, but you haven’t answered why your version of heaven / raqia contradicts scripture.

    Easy. Let me explain.

    Your model is wrong.

    Therefore, you lose Mike.

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    You forgot one other point

    The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures teach – with the exception that the artist put the sun, moon and stars just below the raqia, when they are actually IN the raqia.

    God called the raqia heaven. And God dwells in heaven. So you and Danny also need to place God below the waters where the stars a…[Read more]

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    Stop lying Mike

    Clearly you were misleading berean about the sun distance being the consensus on these varying temperatures. Grow up and own it Mike. You live in a fantasy pizza world where lies are truth and truth are lies. You even lie about the very statement you were clearly making. You said:

    If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles…

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    Pretender, first of all, I didn’t say those words above.  That was a copy/paste from Eric Dubay’s “200 Proofs”.

    Which you are using as YOUR argument to convince berean. So take responsibility.

    Secondly, there is nothing within Eric’s statement that says anything whatsoever about what “science says” about the reason for the seasons on earth.

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    @danny

    Danny God called the raqia heaven and scripture is clear that God is in heaven. So you need to place God below the waters if you are sticking to your definition of raqia / dome. Please amend. If not,then you do not really believe this and you should be honest about that.

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    Here is the proof

    YES!  These are exactly the words I want you to quote… the ones where I “tried to convince Berean that the reason science says the lower latitudes are colder is because the sun is further away”.

    49) If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summer…[Read more]

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    Since Pretender will NEVER actually SHOW us any of the LIES he accuses me of perpetrating, let me explain what this is all about.

    Mike, this is another lie. I clearly pointed out how you lied about the reason why science says there are sharp temperature differences. You need to stop lying because you need to tell more lies to cover the previous…[Read more]

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    This is what a leader sounds like

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    SINCE IT HAS BEEN RECENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED BY YOU THAT MY ANALOGY MICAH PROPHECY IS TALKING ABOUT LITERAL DAYS…
    IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURE THAT MAKES IT UNDENIABLY CLEAR THAT WHEN GOD USED THE SAME KIND OF LANGUAGE IN GENESIS 1 (NUMERICAL VALUES AND EVENING/MORNING ATTRIBUTED TO THE DAYS), AND THAT WHEN GOD CLEARLY EQUATED THE SIX DAYS OF CREATION…

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    Well said Gene.

    It’s dumber and dumber  to be sure.

    Such stupidity needs to be exposed for what it is. Imagine the damage to the gospel and faith for those that need salvation when Mike lies and says the bible teaches this.

    Yes  he’s a few eggs short of a dozen. He’s lost the plot for sure. He suffers from clue deficit disorder.

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    No point in fighting reality Mike.

    Gene, clouds are NOT water, as you yourself made clear by stipulating BETWEEN water, ice, and steam/vapor.

    Mike, where does rain come from?

    The sky.

    Is rain, water?

    Yes.

    How does the rain get up there in the first place?

    Water droplets turn into water vapour which are small enough to float up toward the…[Read more]

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    I already gave you the perfect solution to prove that you are telling the truth… Quote my statement that was intentionally designed to deceive Berean into believing something that I know is a lie.

    I told you what you did. You intentionally left out the real reason why lower latitudes are colder and made out the reason was because the sun was e…[Read more]

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    Eric Dubay lies exposed

    1. He questions the existence of flights that I have been on numerous times.
    2. He talks about trade winds that boost plane speed, but the point is the distances are two or three times the distance than reality and similar northern hemisphere flights. Further, a return flight goes back against such trade winds. Of course he…

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    Don’t waste your time and energy on Proclaimer.
    It’s no use debating with a deceiver.

    Cult members think truth is deception. That’s a fact. When it comes to truth,  I am not shy. Yes a sword that can hurt if you are on the wrong side of it.

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    Proclaimer:  Chop chop. Bring back the sun.

    Mike: Already done… twice on video.  Your turn now…

    No Mike. Bring it back after it is set and without going to a higher altitude to do it.

    Zooming in to increase the visual space below the sun is deception if you are trying to pass that off as bring the sun back after it is set.

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    What are these waters above the sun, moon, and stars that God allowed to flood the earth in your model?

    Bahahaha!

    The water came past the sun  moon  and stars, to good the earth. Lol. What can I say. I’m lost for words.

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    Science 101.

    Water exists in at least 3 states.

    Liquid, solid, gas.

    End of story.

    It is the same water in the sea, lakes, and rivers that forms clouds and icebergs, snow, rain, etc.

    Google ‘the water cycle’.

    Facts.

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    Yes, I know.  You have repeated your answer “clouds” multiple times.  That answer was thoroughly debunked by common sense and the scriptures, seeing that clouds are not “waters”,

    Clouds are water. Everyone knows that. They are part of the water cycle. Ice is water. Clouds and steam are water. And water exists in liquid form. Basic stuff Mike. Sci…[Read more]

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