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    It doesn’t mean he was a lone. But that he created alone. The sons of God applauded so they were there.

    Job 38
    Where were you when I founded the earth?
        Tell me, if you have understanding.
    5 Who determined its size? Surely you know?
        Who stretched out the measuring line for it?
    6 Into what were its pedestals sunk,
        and who laid its corn…[Read more]

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    If I built a tree-fort for my son, then yes I could be the only builder. But if it weren’t for my son, I would not have built it.

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    That is why I postulate: it was because of Jesus’ death on a cross
    that God created the the heavens alone and the earth by himself.

    It is not written anywhere that God created everything for that purpose. What it does say is that God created it for him and through him.

    And yes God did all things alone. He did it. But he did it through and for. He…[Read more]

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    Read my above post.

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    That is why I postulate: it was because of Jesus’ death on a cross
    that God created the the heavens alone and the earth by himself.

    It is not written anywhere that God created everything for that purpose. What it does say is that God created it for him and through him.

    And yes God did all things alone. He did it. But he did it through and for. He…[Read more]

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    That is why I postulate: it was because of Jesus’ death on a cross
    that God created the the heavens alone and the earth by himself.

    It is not written anywhere that God created everything for that purpose. What it does say is that God created it for him and through him.

    And yes God did all things alone. He did it. But he did it through and for. He…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    So you now say the Jordan was not just where the anointing of Jesus was RECOGNISED.

    Never said that ever. You are in error again. What spirit leads a man to error time and time again?

    Again, I simply pointed out the scripture that said that this was recognition of the Christ to John the Baptist who then made that public.

    You add in the word…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    Hi t8,

    So you are frightened to challenge your own ideas because you believe they are soundly and scripturally based.

    Nick, you have no idea what my ideas are based on your accusations. This cannot be of the Spirit because your words are error.

    I have simply declared that that Jesus was born the messiah and savior as testified by the angel of…[Read more]

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    There is a belief that the Spanish married into Irish society. My mother was Irish and had jet-black hair and hazel eyes.

    I travelled the world before tavelling extensively around New Zealand. Yes I agree, what a beautiful country. When I drove down the Westcoast of the South Island for the first time, it was quite annoying. Every corner I…[Read more]

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    Try headphones kerwin. Failing that, lip reading might work.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    There is a difference between being anointed and having that anointing recognised.

    Perhaps you are happy with this confusion.

    Nick, you have no idea what I believe about this because I have never voiced it. You are relying on your own understanding of the scriptures that I quote. Just because I quote a scripture doesn’t mean that I definitely…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    There is a difference between being anointed and having that anointing recognised.

    Perhaps you are happy with this confusion.

    Nick, you have no idea what I believe about this because I have never voiced it. You are relying on your own understanding of the scriptures that I quote. Just because I quote a scripture doesn’t mean that I definitely…[Read more]

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    And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

    Thanks.

    As you can see it is not consistent between versions. It may be a manuscript difference as the KJ varieties seem to be a paraphrase of what you quoted.

    Let’s say it is not the…[Read more]

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    T8…..The power of God to reaveal into our minds the truth about JESUS AND OTHER THINGS, IS THE POWER THAT JESUS USES TO BUILD THE CHURCH ON, IT’S STILL God the Father doing it.

    So you have changed your mind from God to the power of God.

    HOW DO YOU SEPERATE GOD FRON HIS SPIRITUAL POWERS.

    One is of God, the other is God.

    If there is no dif…[Read more]

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    T8…..The power of God to reaveal into our minds the truth about JESUS AND OTHER THINGS, IS THE POWER THAT JESUS USES TO BUILD THE CHURCH ON, IT’S STILL God the Father doing it.

    So you have changed your mind from God to the power of God.

    HOW DO YOU SEPERATE GOD FRON HIS SPIRITUAL POWERS.

    One is of God, the other is God.

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    Remember that I am subject as a member to the same rules here. And if you put someone on the Hot Seat, then the other person(s) can in turn ask you questions and you are subject to the same rules in the discussion. No one has an advantage here.

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    But let your statement be, ‘Yes, yes ‘ or ‘No, no’; anything beyond these is of evil.”

    I have adopted the yes / no approach for the Hot Seat. I realise that the Hot Seat is not in the Bible. This was done to rid of the devil in the details practice due to the lack of honesty by some members.

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    I said what if we DO know the answer and the answer is not a yes or a no? We can’t say we don’t know because we do know. That’s a forced misstatement.

    Okay. If someone asks a question like: “How many commandments are there”, then that seems like a fair question that cannot be answered with a yes / no response so giving your answer is good. You s…[Read more]

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    I said what if we DO know the answer and the answer is not a yes or a no? We can’t say we don’t know because we do know. That’s a forced misstatement.

    Okay. IF someone asks a question like: “How many commandments are there”, then that seems like a fair question that requires a yes / no answer so that should be fine. You should answer that quest…[Read more]

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    I hear the claims but the spirit behind them is not of God.

    Designed to support those addicted to literal thinking but also to deny spiritual truth.

    Matthew 5:37
    All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

    Of course, once you have answered you are free to give an explanation to your answer. So no…[Read more]

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