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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    Yes both are worshipped in Heaven. One is worshipped/honoured as God and the other as the Lamb.

    Revelation 5:13-14
    “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb

    be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

    And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
    2 Thessalonians 1:11-12
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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    Yes both are worshipped in Heaven. One is worshipped/honoured as God and the other as the Lamb.

    Revelation 5:13-14
    “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb

    be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

    And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
    2 Thessalonians 1:11-12
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    Me too. It is always comforting coming home. I remember living in South America for 18 months. When I arrive in New Zealand, I unconsciously lowered my head so that when I came out into the terminal, I would not make eye contact with hawkers etc. Then I realised I was in NZ and didn’t have to do that. I lifted my head and no one hassled me. A nice…[Read more]

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    God is Spirit.

    The LORD is the spirit.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    There was never a time when God the Father was alone….

    Can you prove that in scripture.

    I imagine that God is content with himself, being perfect and lacking nothing. But that doesn’t stop him from creating others from himself in order to see even himself through their eyes and to love them as his children.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    There was never a time when God the Father was alone….

    Can you prove that in scripture.

    I imagine that God is content with himself, being perfect and lacking nothing. But that doesn’t stop him from creating others from himself in order to see even himself through other eyes and to love them as his children.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    There was never a time when God the Father was alone….

    Can you prove that in scripture.

    I imagine that God is content with himself. But that doesn’t stop him from creating others from himself in order to see even himself through other eyes and to love them as his children.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    From the vantage point of literalism can you ever see your errors?

    The scriptures I quote are not errors Nick. It is these scriptures that you are having a hard time with.

    When I quote them, you and Kerwin say I am wrong.

    Then you make out I say things that are not true. Bearing false witness?

    What’s up with that?

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    Was listening to this interesting presentation about the Pre-flood world and how it matches the gigantism we see in the fossil record and other information.

    Heaven Net mentioned here
    While listening to it, I noticed he mentioned ‘Heaven Net’ in the context of the Book of Enoch.

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    Was listening to this interesting presentation about the Pre-flood world and how it matches the gigantism we see in the fossil record and other information.

    While listening to it, I noticed he mentioned ‘Heaven Net’ in the context of the Book of Enoch.

    Heaven Net mentioned here

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    Was listening to this interesting presentation about the Pre-flood world and how it matches the gigantism we see in the fossil record and other information.

    While listening to it, I noticed he mentioned ‘Heaven Net’ in the context of the Book of Enoch. The video below skips to that if you are…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    I hope he get it right one day

    I do too Terraricca. If he’s wrong in his judgements and accusations, then he has to give an account for that. It is between him and God. He could apologise as part of the repentance process. That is up to him.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    I hope he get it right one day

    I do too. If he’s wrong in his judgements and accusations, then he has to give an account for that. It is between him and God. He could apologise as part of the repentance process. That is up to him.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 6 months ago

    I do too. If he is wrong in his judgements and accusations, then he has to give an account for that. It is between him and God. He could apologise as part of the repentance process. That is up to him.

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    OK, THIS is my first question to you, Do you even know how a will is formed or if it is formed, YES OR NO OR DON’T KNOW.?, this would be a good start IMO.

    I didn’t realise there was an outstanding question.

    I think a life that comes from God to be its own life needs its own will in order to be a new life. Otherwise it is an extension of God only.

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    Yes, if he has no free will, then he is not free.

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    Hi terricca. Long time no hear. Blessings.

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    “Alone” and “By Myself” means “with No-Helper” – do you agree?

    Not always IMO.

    Someone can give me an idea which is help, but they may not be involved in the creation process.

    For example, Twitter has helped Facebook with certain features by way of copying what they have, but Twitter did not create Facebook and have no ownership of it.

    If God c…[Read more]

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    “Alone” and “By Myself” means “with No-Helper” – do you agree?

    Not always IMO.

    Someone can give me an idea which is help, but they may not be involved in the creation process.

    For example, Twitter has helped Facebook with certain features by way of copying what they have, but Twitter did not create Facebook and have no ownership of it.

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    Alone in making it. But not alone otherwise.

    I build websites for a living. I get files from graphic designers who tell me how it should look. But none of these guys can claim to have built the website. They can claim the artwork. But I collaborate with them to build what they have in mind. While this is not an exact parallel with God and his…[Read more]

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