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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
Sorry, t8, that really doesn’t answer any of my questions. If anything, your response makes your position appear even more untenable, as now you feel teh Father isn’t eternal either
Read again. Of course the Father is eternal.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
Your reference to science seems way off topic, not an analogous situation
You missed the point then. I established that mainstream science and religious experts believe many things contrary to what scripture says. Thus you either trust in the scriptures or you trust in the opinions of so-called experts. Of course this is not true with all…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
I have yet to see you demonstrate any knowledge or study of any Trinitarian writings or doctrines or solid sources of biblical scholarship.
If understanding scripture was hard and we needed to rely on experts to interpret it for us, then we would need to put our trust in man. But scripture is not hard to understand if you have the Spirit and hear…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
I have yet to see you demonstrate any knowledge or study of any Trinitarian writings or doctrines or solid sources of biblical scholarship.
If understanding scripture was hard and we needed to rely on experts to interpret it for us, then we would need to put our trust in man. But scripture is not hard to understand if you have the Spirit and hear…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HI, t8,
OK, so at what point prior to creation did Christ come along? Why? How? At what point did God teh Father come along? If the Son is not eternal, then neither is the Father, as you can’t be a Father without a Son? So, what was leading up to these major changes in God prior to creation? What would you call God prior to being either…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HI, t8,
OK, so at what point prior to creation did Christ come along? Why? How? At what point did God teh Father come along? If the Son is not eternal, then neither is the Father, as you can’t be a Father without a Son? So, what was leading up to these major changes in God prior to creation? What would you call God prior to being either…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HI, t8,
OK, so at what point prior to creation did Christ come along? Why? How? At what point did God teh Father come along? If the Son is not eternal, then neither is the Father, as you can’t be a Father without a Son? So, what was leading up to these major changes in God prior to creation? What would you call God prior to being either…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HI, t8,
Generally, scholars understand Philippians to be claiming that Christ preexisted as God and that the surrendered certain privileges of such divinity in order to accomplish his mission. That is based on a keener understanding of the Greek here than what you have. That is way some Bible translations simply read “who being in very n…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HI, t8,
Generally, scholars understand Philippians to be claiming that Christ preexisted as God and that the surrendered certain privileges of such divinity in order to accomplish his mission. That is based on a keener understanding of the Greek here than what you have. That is way some Bible translations simply read “who being in very n…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
Did you not think the messiah was born?
Lol yes, he was born the messiah that day in a manger. Did you not think that he was born the messiah that day?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
Did you not think the messiah was born?
Yes, he was born the messiah that day in a manger. Did you not think that he was born the messiah that day?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
kerwin, the problem you guys have is not me, it is that angel of God because that angel is the one who delcared:.
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
I am not into ignoring scripture nor do I want to believe something that contradicts it.
I believe that message of the angel, so instead of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
Eight identical twin studies in the U.S,, Australia, and Scandinavia over the last two decades arrive at the same conclusion: Homosexuals were not born that way. This is said proof that homosexuality is not genetic.
“At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a sci…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why are some people homosexual? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
To Satan.
Did you read the second post in this topic? It offers evidence that homosexuals are not born that way. If the data is wrong, then show us why.
I will quote the post in my next post for your convenience.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Yep, I saw his post. I will let him stay and monitor the situation. He is not beyond help, so will leave it for that reason. If he turns out to be here to cause trouble only, then I can remove him easily enough.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
Yes evidence beyond opinion is required as Kerwin will appreciate.
The messiah was born in Bethlehem.
You conveniently missed out the words “this day” or “today” didn’t you?
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Does this scripture make you wriggle in agony? Why appose it then?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
Wisdom is justified of her children.
Yes I would say that it is wise to believe the angel’s testimony of Jesus. But you do not believe.
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
T8…..So tell us when was JESUS the lord, was that aso at berth also even before he could even talk or reason?,
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
The angels message is foolishness to you Gene because you hold that Jesus the person had no other existence before being born this baby. Thus the d…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
If you cannot hear the Spirit why do you search the scriptures?
So believing that angel’s message and defending it means I lack the spirit according to Nick.
That is a big call for two reasons.
- You infer I have not the Spirit.
The angel has to be wrong because believing the message leads to these accusations of yours.Or perhaps you are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
If you cannot hear the Spirit why do you search the scriptures?
So believing that angel’s message and defending it means I lack the spirit Nick.
That is a big call for two reasons.
- You infer I have not the Spirit.
The angel has to be wrong because believing the message leads to these accusations of yours.Or perhaps you are wrong rather…[Read more]
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