Like what?  I debunked your “multiple raqias” argument.

Nope. Your being stupid again.

You have not debunked my multiple heavens idea and God called the raqia – heaven.

You have no answer. Cat got your tongue again?

Now, about that “water outside the universe”.  No go, Champ.  God opened the windows of the firmament and allowed some of the waters above to flood the earth.  Impossible in the “waters outside the universe” safety device that you just invented out of desperation.

Sounds like clouds to me.

Mike  you guys claim to bring back small boats from over the supposed curve. Great. Now for something easier. Bring back the sun.

Cat got your tongue?

Mike, you are  desparately drawing at straws. Instead  get your camera gear and bring back the sun. Challenge us with facts. We will never believe the ramblings of a nutter. Give us something substantial to work with. But I guess you can’t right?

Notice how the first line doesn’t quite match the second. “You were RIGHT all along… but you have also been WRECKED by the facts!” 😁

Nope.

I have never said this is the only interptetation. I have simply put forth a few views that you couldn’t debunk. And I still think one particular view makes more sense than the others both biblically and sci…[Read more]

AD doesn’t mean after death or after Christ. It means Anno Domini, the year of our lord. That is his birth.

Sorry to burst your bubble Mike, but even if you are right about the raqia thing, it doesn’t prove a flat earth. I admit it is possible that there could be water outside the universe, but I seriously doubt it. So if this is the best you can do, then you might want to take up another hobby.

You have been totally wrecked with the facts, but just…[Read more]

Flat Earth Scientist gives evidence

This little exchange sums up the entire debate quite nicely. There are people pointing out what God’s written word actually says about a matter, and other people LAUGHING at what God’s written word says about it – as if “this is what the scriptures say” is some kind of a joke or something. Shame.

Once again you misunderstand. It was his answer, n…[Read more]

God is eternal.

He inhabits creation by his Spirit.

He is outside creation because not even heaven can contain him.

His Spirit flows from the throne of God and the river of life through the paradise of God.

Beyond the throne is God.

Yes, the Lord dwells in heaven.

But are you saying that heaven was not created?

If it was, then before creation God was not in heaven.

Simple.

If heaven always existed and God is inside. Then is heaven bigger than God like earth is bigger than you?

Something for you to meditate on.

One more.

In a flat earth, how can the Tropic of Capricorn have less circumference than the equator?

Definitely good night.

Therefore, the waters above are not only above the raqia, but also above the luminaries that are IN the raqia.

It doesn’t matter if you call it “skies”, because then the luminaries would be IN the skies and the waters would still be ABOVE the skies.

Great, let’s call it skies.

So there is a sky and a watery planet. God makes some sky betwe…[Read more]

The Flat earth sun must be travelling at mach 2.7. Lol.
Flat-earthers like to complain about the equator moving at 1,000 mph due to the earth spinning. But if the Sun is over one point on Earth and 12 hours later is over another point on the opposite side, something must be traveling thousands of miles per hour.

Let’s look at the flat-earth model…[Read more]

But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.

You say that this refers to the space between the sea and the clouds. Okay.

A few verses later we’re told that God created the sun, moon and stars and placed them in THAT expense.

God separated the waters with an ex…[Read more]

So your understanding, where the clouds are the waters above the expanse, requires the sun, moon and stars to be in the raqia that is between the sea and the clouds, since it is the ONLY raqia God ever created.

God called the raqia – heaven. How many heavens are there again?

But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

Thanks gene. Mike is definitely batting for the other team.