T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,

Wrong!

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord

Clearly the angels message is contradictory to your statement Gene. You are obviously wrong. Where is your love for the truth? Is the love of stubborn pride greater than that of truth?

T8….NICK OR I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS NOT “BORN” TO BE THE SAVIOR OR MESSIAH,

I realise that. But it clearly says: “for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord“.

Whereas both of you deny this and are really saying that he was not born a savior or Christ, or Lord.

That is what you are saying. By exten…[Read more]

Following the format, I require a yes no answer only your next post. You can explain all you like in a following post.

Regarding this scripture:

“for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord”?

In the bolded text in the above scripture, is it saying:

Jesus was ‘Christ the Lord’ when he was born…[Read more]

Hi T8,

All questions answered so what is your justification?

This could be a good time to take a break.

 

It seem you want to have only folk here who agree with you.

When you cool down I may return.

I’ll set it up anyway. If you run away, that is your choice.

You still sit with the philosophers and Nicodemus.

Where did Nicodemus say this?

Luke 2:10-11
But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

No Nick, I can offer much more than saying you are blabbering. Perhaps you are not reading my posts to you. I guess it has come to the stage of putting you on the Hot Seat.

But you do NOT believe that Jesus was born the messiah and the Lord. You clearly confessed this publicly and are yet to take responsibility for your error and say you are/were wrong.

Jesus the baby/man was born the savior, Christ, and son of God. Even the Lord. You teach a Jesus who was not born as these because you said:

Of course Jesus was…

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Gene and Nick. Scripture says that Jesus was born the Christ, savior, the Lord, even the son of God. Any disagreement puts you in disagreement with God and the angel he sent to deliver the message. It is written clearly and I believe it. Yet you writhe in agony over this. Strange.

Nick, you are blabbering again.

The words of an angel are no evidence, but we are to take the words of Nick as true, even though you were true when you held a different opinion.

Come on Nick, how stupid do you think we are. Perhaps you will change your mind again and be even more right. But that would make you wrong wouldn’t it.

Here is the evidence that you missed:

Today in…[Read more]

Good.

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

So on that say in the town of David, he was born as the savior and as the messiah?

Please answer in the following format: Yes / No

You can then make a follow up post explaining your answer in full.

I require a yes or no.

Good.

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

So on that say in the town of David, he was born as the savior and as the messiah?

Yes / No

T8….So show us a single mircale GOD performed through the man Jesus before his baptizem at the Jordan,

His ministry had not really started then Gene. John came to prepare the way and the one the Spirit descended on was the Christ. This sign showed John that he must become less and Jesus become more.

So what was John’s reaction to baptizing J…[Read more]

Hi t8,

It s sad that you would mock those who learn and change their view.

Can you not do so?

Not sad Nick. I point out the truth. You claim to be right now, and you claimed to be right back then. So in the future you will change your mind and be right and all the arguing of today is vanity?

Have we heard you say that you were wrong? We haven’t…[Read more]

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So you teach that Luke 2:11-14 is not saying that this day was born a savior which is Christ the Lord.

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior,

Does the above scripture mean that on that day, he was NOT born a savior?

Please answer.

Yes / No

Hi t8,

Your misunderstanding of the words of the angel

shows that you do not know what it means to follow Jesus.

Sit with Nicodemus.

So you teach that Luke 2:11-14 is not saying that this day was born a savior which is Christ the Lord.

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.“

So the mystery is…[Read more]

Jael, the Logos was with God in the beginning.

Nick many have made posts that you clearly cannot refute myself included. One-line comments do not suffice unfortunately.

Could be. However in the case of Jesus, he was born the savior and Christ. While I do not think it could be said that we are born saved or born as a son of God. We are born of Adam and have to choose to be born-again.

While we may be foreordained, I am not so sure that we are preordained as I think Gene believes.